[Bf-docboard] Current state of wiki updating.

Mon Sep 3 23:00:57 CEST 2012

Although I am a newbie here, I do have technical writing and a lot of instructional material writing experience. I'd like to participate as well, if allowed. 

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> From: amdbcg <amdbcg at gmail.com>
>To: Blender Documentation Project <bf-docboard at blender.org> 
>Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 1:53 PM
>Subject: Re: [Bf-docboard] Current state of wiki updating.
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>A Scrum meeting sounds excellent. Wednesday night? what time in UTC? I'm in the USA (CST -6:00 UTC)
>When the meeting takes place, could someone take notes, summarize,
      and post these notes back here? This will put everyone on the same
      page. 
>-amdbcg
>
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>On 9/3/2012 8:38 AM, Kesten Broughton wrote:
>
>One thing that would really help with relaxing the review process and avoid things getting messed up would be a history tab.  Many wikis have this and it serves as a version control of sorts.  I believe it is "built in" to the wiki framework and should just need enabling.
>>
>>This way, at times when our reviewer to contributor count is too
      low we could allow contributions to be pushed live before review
      with a note that "This page needs review" like wikipedia has.  If
      the new contribution is really "messed up" then the change could
      be reverted (but not destroyed).  
>>
>>When our reviewer team is functioning, then we could tighten up
      the process to 'push live".
>>
>>I'm currently doing some review for Jim's work on BGE, but I
      haven't been trained by one of the core members, so i'm not sure
      if i'm missing anything.  We're also not clear on the procedure to
      push live once a page has been reviewed.
>>
>>This page should be used to track our work in progress.
>>http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki_Tasks/Review_2.6_Manual
>>
>>My vote is for a wiki-team scrum on IRC asap where we can hash out
      a short term plan for the next month or two that is satisfactory
      to all.   How about wed night?
>>
>>kesten
>> 
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>>
>>On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Brecht Van Lommel <brechtvanlommel at pandora.be> wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I agree that the review process is not working, at this point
          the
>>>community is just too small to have a process this formal.
          People
>>>can't take responsibility immediately, they start first making
          small
>>>changes, and later might get more involved and be ready to
          take on
>>>responsibility. But there's not much point in doing that
          before they
>>>have worked for a while to convince themselves and others that
          this is
>>>something they want to do.
>>>
>>>Not sure what the right answer is, but I think the reviewing
          process
>>>should be relaxed. At least small changes like documenting a
          new
>>>option and the type of cleanups mentioned at the top of manual
          pages
>>>should be allowed without review. Why not do that and have a
          few
>>>people monitor recent changes? I'd volunteer for that.
>>>http://wiki.blender.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&limit=500&days=30&target=Doc%3A2.6%2FManual
>>>
>>>Brecht.
>>> 
>>>
>>>On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:20 AM, mindrones <mindrones at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> at least until the end of September, I will really
              have no time to
>>>> follow wiki pages editing and/or reviewing.
>>>>
>>>> Opening up the wiki has been done already and the
              mess that came out
>>>> in a year took months to be fixed.
>>>> After long discussions we have preferred to push
              people to take
>>>> responsibility instead.
>>>>
>>>> We have decided to start this table
>>>> http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki%20Team#Roles
>>>> to invite people to take responsibility for some
              particular chapter.
>>>> That table is still kind of empty though... If you
              are active on the
>>>> wiki and want to take responsibility for a certain
              area of the manual,
>>>> just show up there.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Let me apologies for the long silence, I'll try to be
              more active and
>>>> read these mail more often.
>>>> Also, not being able to talk on IRC nowadays is quite
              a big hassle,
>>>> sorry for that.
>>>>
>>>> Frankly, if I will realize that I'm being more of a
              burden than a
>>>> help, I'll "resign" from my role of wiki coordinator
              and will let the
>>>> witness to someone else. In my view Greylica is a
              good substitute for
>>>> example, him being quite enthusiastic and active
              since a long time :),
>>>> but that should be discussed by other admins and
              active writers.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Luca
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>>
>>Kesten Broughton
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