[Bf-docboard] Current state of wiki updating.

amdbcg amdbcg at gmail.com
Mon Sep 3 22:53:13 CEST 2012


A Scrum meeting sounds excellent. Wednesday night? what time in UTC? I'm 
in the USA (CST -6:00 UTC)
When the meeting takes place, could someone take notes, summarize, and 
post these notes back here? This will put everyone on the same page.
-amdbcg


On 9/3/2012 8:38 AM, Kesten Broughton wrote:
> One thing that would really help with relaxing the review process and 
> avoid things getting messed up would be a history tab 
> <https://share.coursera.org/wiki/index.php?title=ML:Neural_Networks:_Learning&action=history>.  
> Many wikis have this and it serves as a version control of sorts.  I 
> believe it is "built in" to the wiki framework and should just need 
> enabling.
>
> This way, at times when our reviewer to contributor count is too low 
> we could allow contributions to be pushed live before review with a 
> note that "This page needs review" like wikipedia has.  If the new 
> contribution is really "messed up" then the change could be reverted 
> (but not destroyed).
>
> When our reviewer team is functioning, then we could tighten up the 
> process to 'push live".
>
> I'm currently doing some review for Jim's work on BGE, but I haven't 
> been trained by one of the core members, so i'm not sure if i'm 
> missing anything.  We're also not clear on the procedure to push live 
> once a page has been reviewed.
>
> This page should be used to track our work in progress.
> http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki_Tasks/Review_2.6_Manual
>
> My vote is for a wiki-team scrum on IRC asap where we can hash out a 
> short term plan for the next month or two that is satisfactory to 
> all.   How about wed night?
>
> kesten
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Brecht Van Lommel 
> <brechtvanlommel at pandora.be <mailto:brechtvanlommel at pandora.be>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I agree that the review process is not working, at this point the
>     community is just too small to have a process this formal. People
>     can't take responsibility immediately, they start first making small
>     changes, and later might get more involved and be ready to take on
>     responsibility. But there's not much point in doing that before they
>     have worked for a while to convince themselves and others that this is
>     something they want to do.
>
>     Not sure what the right answer is, but I think the reviewing process
>     should be relaxed. At least small changes like documenting a new
>     option and the type of cleanups mentioned at the top of manual pages
>     should be allowed without review. Why not do that and have a few
>     people monitor recent changes? I'd volunteer for that.
>     http://wiki.blender.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&limit=500&days=30&target=Doc%3A2.6%2FManual
>
>     Brecht.
>
>     On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:20 AM, mindrones <mindrones at gmail.com
>     <mailto:mindrones at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     > Hi all,
>     >
>     > at least until the end of September, I will really have no time to
>     > follow wiki pages editing and/or reviewing.
>     >
>     > Opening up the wiki has been done already and the mess that came out
>     > in a year took months to be fixed.
>     > After long discussions we have preferred to push people to take
>     > responsibility instead.
>     >
>     > We have decided to start this table
>     > http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki%20Team#Roles
>     > to invite people to take responsibility for some particular chapter.
>     > That table is still kind of empty though... If you are active on the
>     > wiki and want to take responsibility for a certain area of the
>     manual,
>     > just show up there.
>     >
>     > --
>     >
>     > Let me apologies for the long silence, I'll try to be more
>     active and
>     > read these mail more often.
>     > Also, not being able to talk on IRC nowadays is quite a big hassle,
>     > sorry for that.
>     >
>     > Frankly, if I will realize that I'm being more of a burden than a
>     > help, I'll "resign" from my role of wiki coordinator and will
>     let the
>     > witness to someone else. In my view Greylica is a good
>     substitute for
>     > example, him being quite enthusiastic and active since a long
>     time :),
>     > but that should be discussed by other admins and active writers.
>     >
>     > Kind regards,
>     > Luca
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