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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">A Scrum meeting sounds excellent.
Wednesday night? what time in UTC? I'm in the USA (CST -6:00 UTC)<br>
When the meeting takes place, could someone take notes, summarize,
and post these notes back here? This will put everyone on the same
page. <br>
-amdbcg<br>
<br>
<br>
On 9/3/2012 8:38 AM, Kesten Broughton wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAO2fFsVJS7gKQ_Po__pYicT6eXmBO9+rHzA4Vo_Dhj9eHTDJWg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">One thing that would really help with relaxing the
review process and avoid things getting messed up would be a <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://share.coursera.org/wiki/index.php?title=ML:Neural_Networks:_Learning&action=history">history
tab</a>. Many wikis have this and it serves as a version
control of sorts. I believe it is "built in" to the wiki
framework and should just need enabling.<br>
<br>
This way, at times when our reviewer to contributor count is too
low we could allow contributions to be pushed live before review
with a note that "This page needs review" like wikipedia has. If
the new contribution is really "messed up" then the change could
be reverted (but not destroyed). <br>
<br>
When our reviewer team is functioning, then we could tighten up
the process to 'push live".<br>
<br>
I'm currently doing some review for Jim's work on BGE, but I
haven't been trained by one of the core members, so i'm not sure
if i'm missing anything. We're also not clear on the procedure to
push live once a page has been reviewed.<br>
<br>
This page should be used to track our work in progress.<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki_Tasks/Review_2.6_Manual">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki_Tasks/Review_2.6_Manual</a><br>
<br>
My vote is for a wiki-team scrum on IRC asap where we can hash out
a short term plan for the next month or two that is satisfactory
to all. How about wed night?<br>
<br>
kesten<br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Brecht
Van Lommel <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be" target="_blank">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
I agree that the review process is not working, at this point
the<br>
community is just too small to have a process this formal.
People<br>
can't take responsibility immediately, they start first making
small<br>
changes, and later might get more involved and be ready to
take on<br>
responsibility. But there's not much point in doing that
before they<br>
have worked for a while to convince themselves and others that
this is<br>
something they want to do.<br>
<br>
Not sure what the right answer is, but I think the reviewing
process<br>
should be relaxed. At least small changes like documenting a
new<br>
option and the type of cleanups mentioned at the top of manual
pages<br>
should be allowed without review. Why not do that and have a
few<br>
people monitor recent changes? I'd volunteer for that.<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&limit=500&days=30&target=Doc%3A2.6%2FManual"
target="_blank">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&limit=500&days=30&target=Doc%3A2.6%2FManual</a><br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Brecht.<br>
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On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:20 AM, mindrones <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mindrones@gmail.com">mindrones@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> at least until the end of September, I will really
have no time to<br>
> follow wiki pages editing and/or reviewing.<br>
><br>
> Opening up the wiki has been done already and the
mess that came out<br>
> in a year took months to be fixed.<br>
> After long discussions we have preferred to push
people to take<br>
> responsibility instead.<br>
><br>
> We have decided to start this table<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki%20Team#Roles"
target="_blank">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki%20Team#Roles</a><br>
> to invite people to take responsibility for some
particular chapter.<br>
> That table is still kind of empty though... If you
are active on the<br>
> wiki and want to take responsibility for a certain
area of the manual,<br>
> just show up there.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
><br>
> Let me apologies for the long silence, I'll try to be
more active and<br>
> read these mail more often.<br>
> Also, not being able to talk on IRC nowadays is quite
a big hassle,<br>
> sorry for that.<br>
><br>
> Frankly, if I will realize that I'm being more of a
burden than a<br>
> help, I'll "resign" from my role of wiki coordinator
and will let the<br>
> witness to someone else. In my view Greylica is a
good substitute for<br>
> example, him being quite enthusiastic and active
since a long time :),<br>
> but that should be discussed by other admins and
active writers.<br>
><br>
> Kind regards,<br>
> Luca<br>
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