<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Although I am a newbie here, I do have technical writing and a lot of instructional material writing experience. I'd like to participate as well, if allowed. <br></span></div><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">  <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1">  <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> amdbcg &lt;amdbcg@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Blender Documentation Project &lt;bf-docboard@blender.org&gt; <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 3, 2012 1:53 PM<br> <b><span
 style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bf-docboard] Current state of wiki updating.<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv1889155308">
  

    
  
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    <div class="yiv1889155308moz-cite-prefix">A Scrum meeting sounds excellent.
      Wednesday night? what time in UTC? I'm in the USA (CST -6:00 UTC)<br>
      When the meeting takes place, could someone take notes, summarize,
      and post these notes back here? This will put everyone on the same
      page. <br>
      -amdbcg<br>
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      On 9/3/2012 8:38 AM, Kesten Broughton wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite">One thing that would really help with relaxing the
      review process and avoid things getting messed up would be a <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://share.coursera.org/wiki/index.php?title=ML:Neural_Networks:_Learning&amp;action=history">history
        tab</a>.&nbsp; Many wikis have this and it serves as a version
      control of sorts.&nbsp; I believe it is "built in" to the wiki
      framework and should just need enabling.<br>
      <br>
      This way, at times when our reviewer to contributor count is too
      low we could allow contributions to be pushed live before review
      with a note that "This page needs review" like wikipedia has.&nbsp; If
      the new contribution is really "messed up" then the change could
      be reverted (but not destroyed).&nbsp; <br>
      <br>
      When our reviewer team is functioning, then we could tighten up
      the process to 'push live".<br>
      <br>
      I'm currently doing some review for Jim's work on BGE, but I
      haven't been trained by one of the core members, so i'm not sure
      if i'm missing anything.&nbsp; We're also not clear on the procedure to
      push live once a page has been reviewed.<br>
      <br>
      This page should be used to track our work in progress.<br>
      <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki_Tasks/Review_2.6_Manual">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki_Tasks/Review_2.6_Manual</a><br>
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      My vote is for a wiki-team scrum on IRC asap where we can hash out
      a short term plan for the next month or two that is satisfactory
      to all.&nbsp;&nbsp; How about wed night?<br>
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      kesten<br>
      &nbsp;<br>
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      <div class="yiv1889155308gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Brecht
        Van Lommel <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be" target="_blank" href="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a>&gt;</span>
        wrote:<br>
        <blockquote class="yiv1889155308gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi,<br>
          <br>
          I agree that the review process is not working, at this point
          the<br>
          community is just too small to have a process this formal.
          People<br>
          can't take responsibility immediately, they start first making
          small<br>
          changes, and later might get more involved and be ready to
          take on<br>
          responsibility. But there's not much point in doing that
          before they<br>
          have worked for a while to convince themselves and others that
          this is<br>
          something they want to do.<br>
          <br>
          Not sure what the right answer is, but I think the reviewing
          process<br>
          should be relaxed. At least small changes like documenting a
          new<br>
          option and the type of cleanups mentioned at the top of manual
          pages<br>
          should be allowed without review. Why not do that and have a
          few<br>
          people monitor recent changes? I'd volunteer for that.<br>
          <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&amp;limit=500&amp;days=30&amp;target=Doc%3A2.6%2FManual">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&amp;limit=500&amp;days=30&amp;target=Doc%3A2.6%2FManual</a><br>
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              Brecht.<br>
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              On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:20 AM, mindrones &lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mindrones@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mindrones@gmail.com">mindrones@gmail.com</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
              &gt; Hi all,<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; at least until the end of September, I will really
              have no time to<br>
              &gt; follow wiki pages editing and/or reviewing.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Opening up the wiki has been done already and the
              mess that came out<br>
              &gt; in a year took months to be fixed.<br>
              &gt; After long discussions we have preferred to push
              people to take<br>
              &gt; responsibility instead.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; We have decided to start this table<br>
              &gt; <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki%20Team#Roles">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki%20Team#Roles</a><br>
              &gt; to invite people to take responsibility for some
              particular chapter.<br>
              &gt; That table is still kind of empty though... If you
              are active on the<br>
              &gt; wiki and want to take responsibility for a certain
              area of the manual,<br>
              &gt; just show up there.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; --<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Let me apologies for the long silence, I'll try to be
              more active and<br>
              &gt; read these mail more often.<br>
              &gt; Also, not being able to talk on IRC nowadays is quite
              a big hassle,<br>
              &gt; sorry for that.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Frankly, if I will realize that I'm being more of a
              burden than a<br>
              &gt; help, I'll "resign" from my role of wiki coordinator
              and will let the<br>
              &gt; witness to someone else. In my view Greylica is a
              good substitute for<br>
              &gt; example, him being quite enthusiastic and active
              since a long time :),<br>
              &gt; but that should be discussed by other admins and
              active writers.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Kind regards,<br>
              &gt; Luca<br>
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