[Bf-docboard] News Headlines on blender.org: wiki update link could be better

Sat Nov 5 16:43:32 CET 2011

First off,
I'm really enjoying the lively discussion on this listserv and look forward
to contributing.
My particular interest is gathering data on the "user experience" and
driving improvements from there.

Here is a minor point that should be easy to fix.

The wiki update under News Headlines on the front page of blender.org has a
link to blendernation.com

http://www.blendernation.com/2011/11/03/wiki/#utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Blendernation+%28BlenderNation%29

 which looks like the spalsh page for the wiki, but clicking on any link
goes to a screenshot.

http://www.blendernation.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/blender-wiki-home.png

 This may seem like a dead-end to a newbie. At the very least, it's 3
wasted clicks.

The blender wiki button on the right hand side or blender.org correctly
takes us to the live 2.5 wiki.

Perhaps someone who knows someone at blendernation could have them re-link
to the live wiki?

 From a usability standpoint, any chance to drive down the number of wasted
clicks is worthwhile.

kesten

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> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:21:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Fade S <fade_docboard_blender at ymail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Bf-docboard] Redirecting old 2.3 docs: help needed!
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> I'm happy to help with this. How do you want to split up the work to avoid
> duplication? Maybe we can assign volunteers a section in the order they've
> emailed. e.g. you take Section 1: Introduction to Blender, Jaagup takes
> Section 2: Modelling, materials and lights, I take Section 3: etc.
>
> I do have a few queries though. Why are we mapping it to the 2.4 manual
> and not the 2.6 manual? From the mapping and your later post here:
>
>
> http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-docboard/2011-November/003772.html
>
> It seems like we'll be mapping 2.3-->2.4, then aligning 2.4 to 2.6 as much
> as possible. If I've understood this and the later SEO discussions
> correctly (and very likely I haven't ;)), it means that people will search
> for "blender extrusion", find the 2.3 page, get shifted over to the 2.4
> manual via the server mapping and then redirected to 2.6.
>
> If you're going to align 2.4 and 2.6, would it not be simpler to wait
> until that is done, then just map 2.3 directly to 2.6?
>
>
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> ________________________________
> From: mindrones <mindrones at gmail.com>
> To: Blender Documentation Project <bf-docboard at blender.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 8:44 PM
> Subject: [Bf-docboard] Redirecting old 2.3 docs: help needed!
>
> Hi all,
>
> we need some volunteers!
>
> If anyone has some spare time to dedicate to the issue explained below,
> please reply with a mail here so we can distribute the effort. When you
> are done, please paste the result in pasteall.org and send the link to
> this list.
>
> Thanks! :)
>
> Regards,
> Luca
>
>
>
> Issue
> ---------------
>
> The old 2.3 docs are better ranked than the wiki pages!
>
> Example
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=blender+extrude
>
> gives:
>
> www.blender.org/documentation/htmlI/x2740.html
> 1st google page, 4th link
>
>
> http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:Manual/Modeling/Meshes/Editing/Basics#Extrusion
> 4th google page, 9th link...
>
>
> Solution
> ---------------
>
> Redirect all subpages of:
>
> http://www.blender.org/documentation/htmlI/
> and
> http://www.blender.org/documentation/htmlII/
>
> to their correspondent wiki page, with a permanent (301) redirect.
> This way search engines will know that, for example:
>
> www.blender.org/documentation/htmlI/x2740.html
>
> is now dead and instead they have to look for
>
> http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:Manual/Modeling/Meshes/Editing/Basics
>
>
> What do we need?
> ------------------
>
> The server admin needs a mapping
>
> old blender.org 2.3 manual page => relative wiki page
>
> for all the html pages in the old manuals.
>
> I'll add some examples here to make this clear:
>
>
> http://www.blender.org/documentation/htmlI/p86.html
> http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:Manual/Introduction
> --
> http://www.blender.org/documentation/htmlI/p86.html
> http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:Manual/Introduction
> --
> http://www.blender.org/documentation/htmlI/x115.html
> http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:Manual/Introduction/History
> --
> http://www.blender.org/documentation/htmlI/x179.html
> http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:Manual/Introduction/License
> --
> http://www.blender.org/documentation/htmlI/x204.html
> http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:Manual/Introduction/Community
> --
>
> ...
>
> --
>
> www.blender.org/documentation/htmlI/x2740.html
> http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:Manual/Modeling/Meshes/Editing/Basics
>
> ...
>
>
> Note that there could be multiple mapping, like 2 html pages pointing at
> the same wiki page, or 1 html page that correspond to more than one wiki
> page.
>
>
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> From: Raindrops From Sky <raindrops.fromsky at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Bf-docboard] Redirecting old 2.3 docs: help needed!
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> Another aspect:
>
> The 2.3 -> 2.4 (or 3.6) redirect will be within the same website (
> blender.org).
> Such links may not help in increasing the rating at all.
>
> For higher ranking, the pages need inbound links from OTHER websites.
> In fact, the tag analysis points out that there are no inbound links at
> present.
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