[Bf-webcontent] Runs out of box?

[Piotr Arlukowicz]

You are right. On MINT Linux (v15) archive manager is unpacking the whole
properly (I've tested blender-2.67b-linux-glibc211-i686), so all
permissions are OK. I've checked this version, because it was mentioned
earlier and somebody gave a link to installation tutorial.
However, indeed there are some unmet dependencies, which are cruicial and
blender is not able to run after simple double clicking.
The problem is visible only for console run:

piotao at hebron:~/blender-2.67b-linux-glibc211-i686$ ./blender
./blender: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory

So, it's easy to fix, but this seems to be impossible for casual user.
This leads to the important question: do we need Blender Installer for
Linux, or at least requirements checker, or not? I think that running
blender in console tells everything what is needed to say what's wrong.
Preparing a fully automated tool which can check system capability can only
help to diagnose, not to install Blender... So current way of installing
looks indeed the best/simples one.
But in my practice, most of graphicall builds are unable to run on my Linux
box (so I've switched to compilation way), and they are not easy to run for
anybody who has diffrent system, which clearly means that Linux versions
across distros are not portable.
So, what do you think, do we need some validator, or checker for Linux
system, just to look for requirements? It could say some suggestions, but
one way or another, casual user is not able to do anything at all.


pz
piotr
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2013/11/12 Brecht Van Lommel <brechtvanlommel at pandora.be>

> We should understand why this happens before adding instructions to do
> chmod +x, it might be something that can be fixed in the Blender
> release itself or only happens on very specific systems. If we don't
> understand why it happens these kinds of issues keep accumulating and
> we have to add more and more instructions.
>
> What we as developers really need to know is, if you download Blender
> 2.69, on which system do you need to do chmod +x after extracting it
> with which command or software? I've seen this advice given a few
> times but then it ends up being a different issue, like missing OpenGL
> graphics drivers.
>
> Brecht.
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Nkansah Rexford
> <nkansahrexford at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Check this
> >
> http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-blender-2-68-on-ubuntu-linux-mint-debian-fedora-opensuse-mageia/
> >
> > And this
> >
> http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-blender-2-67b-on-ubuntu-linux-mint-debian/
> >
> > Blender doesn't run out of the box really out of the box always.
> >
> > My point is, after extracting the archive containing blender, it doesn't
> > always run straight out of the box, at least, a last step to make it
> really
> > run is necessary.
> >
> > It may be a permission requirement on the part of the user and not
> blenders
> > fault, but a new user who reads blender works "out of the box" and can't
> get
> > the "blender" file to run after extracting won't suspect his end to be
> the
> > issue.
> >
> > plus.google.com/+Nkansahrexford
> >
> > On Nov 12, 2013 8:16 PM, "Gottfried Hofmann" <
> gottfried at blenderdiplom.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On 11/12/2013 05:00 PM, Nkansah Rexford wrote:
> >> > On the download page, about how to install blender, I read this:
> >> > "Blender will run straight out of the box"
> >> >
> >> > However, I find typing chmod +x blender in terminal before I'm able to
> >> > run the executable for the first time in Ubuntu.
> >>
> >> It ran out of the box on all my Ubuntu PCs. Always.
> >>
> >> > I'm currently on Ubuntu 13.10 and didn't have to do that though. But
> for
> >> > others on 13.04 or below, if clicking the exe doesn't work they might
> >> > consider it as a bug.
> >>
> >> There is no .EXE for Linux. Did you download windows version and run it
> >> through wine by accident?
> >>
> >> > Blender doesn't run straight out of the box, always.
> >>
> >> It should, it's mostly statically linked.
> >>
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