[Bf-webcontent] Re: Menu nearly done

[Johannes Langlotz]

OK, now I will tattle a bit ;-) . I like standards very much. BUT to 
make this kind of menu (with pulldown menus) with lists makes it only 
complicated. And you are using several lists not only one like it should 
be. Besides you have to work with much fixed sizes and absolute 
positioning (e.g. for menu entries). And in course of that, it chops the 
menu if a user has a larger default font size. I don't want to run down 
your work (bart and bart)! In my opinion it should be as simple as 
possible in course of the variety of browsers and rendering engines.

http://www.webminster.de/extern/b3d/mainmenu.js

This is all JS I use for a text based menu. No need for if(IE) 
elseif(NN)... And that's why it works on every browser which I was able 
to test.

http://www.webminster.de/extern/b3d/index.html

I hate that every browser has its pros and cons (especially IE has cons 
;-) ) but that's why it should be simple.


Johannes



Bart Veldhuizen schrieb:
> Hi Bart,
> 
> I checked and it's not the javascript file, but there's something in the 
> header image that causes IE5/Mac to crash. Not sure what it is yet... 
> Anyway, when I remove the header graphic everything is ok.
> 
> Some more observations: In IE5/Mac there's a lot of flashing; it would 
> seem that there are some conflicting color definitions. In E5.5/Win2K 
> there's a strange effect around the mousecursor: move the mouse over the 
> menu and into the dropdown. Move it around quickly and you will see a 
> 'square' around the cursor.
> 
> Bart
> 
> Op 24-feb-05 om 10:14 heeft Bart het volgende geschreven:
> 
>>
>> Hi Bart,
>>
>> no problem adding the font definitions. Tested my menu under Opera 7.5 
>> on Windows and it works perfect on IE 5 too. Will test it on my mac 
>> later this day.
>>
>> Bart Veldhuizen wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bart,
>>> it works like a charm in Firefox and Opera on Mac. It *completely* 
>>> crashes IE5 on my Mac though. I have tracked it down to the 
>>> javascript that sets the onMouseOver events; I'll look into that 
>>> tonight.
>>> Johannes has also started fiddling with the menu; he kind of missed 
>>> the point of building an xhtml/css menu though. One thing that I do 
>>> like about his version is the fonts: they are a bit more readable and 
>>> more like the current menu. Could you copy the font definition into 
>>> your version?
>>> http://www.webminster.de/extern/b3d/
>>> Cheers,
>>> Bart
>>> Op 24-feb-05 om 0:38 heeft Bart het volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Bart,
>>>>
>>>> here is a clean version of the menu working fine in FireFox and IE 
>>>> 6. Not tested with IE 5 on Win and Mac. There is a problem now with 
>>>> Opera 7.20 it doesn't show the dropdown.
>>>>
>>>> The problems where like ever located in the different interpretation 
>>>> of the CSS box model, that IE does only accept hover styles with a 
>>>> tag and the different interpretation of css command text-align.
>>>>
>>>> If you can test it on safari i can give it a try on IE 5 on mac and 
>>>> win. Of course i will find the opera bug. For that i can test it on 
>>>> Opera 7.5 too.
>>>>
>>>> Put it here too:
>>>> http://www.neeneenee.de/blender/org/
>>>>
>>>> I'm on it!
>>>>
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>>>> |   ,_/
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> 
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