[Bf-webcontent] Convincing people to use BitTorrent for VideoTutorials

[Doug Ollivier]

Uggggg please don't use Bit-torrent for everything.

i would like a download link to everything which has a bit-torrent available 
too.  i agree that the bit-torrent file might look like it has priority, and 
be easier to click etc...  it migh just say "download" on it.  but i would 
always like a real download location to get somthing from.

why?  because  i live in a country where we have "limited bandwidth" we get 
10Gb per month.  and with bit-torrent i have found that it uses more 
bandwidth than the file you are downloading. a 400Mb file used 1.5Gb to 
download.  it was uploading at 5Kbps and downloading at 25Kbps.   this does 
not add up.

i got the blender arts festival DVD sent via snail mail, why?  because we 
only had Bit-torrent available.

honestly its a huge hassle, and i am not the only one.  perhaps when the 
entire world is on broadband with unlimited bandwith will bit-torrent be a 
good alternative.

just my opinion on the matter.  (we are not yet ready for a bit-torrent 
planet)

Douglas Ollivier (Alltaken)



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bart Veldhuizen" <bart at vrotvrot.com>
To: <metsys at icubenetwork.com>; "Blender3d.org web editors maillist" 
<bf-webcontent at projects.blender.org>
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Bf-webcontent] Convincing people to use BitTorrent for 
VideoTutorials


> Hi Glen,
>
> personally, I'm not a big fan of popup windows but I see what you're 
> getting at. The current Typo3 templates that we use also do not support 
> popups, so I would favor an alternate solution. Do you think it would be a 
> problem to offer *only* bittorrent files? We could have a good central 
> page that explains BitTorrent on the site anyway, since the new Conference 
> Videos page 
> (http://www.blender3d.org/cms/Blender_Conference_Videos.481.0.html) is 
> also BitTorrent-only.
>
> I can help you to get started with the siteitems, but I would prefer to do 
> this online with you. Do you ever use IRC, or some kind of instant 
> messaging? We could use that to work on it. Before we do so though, let's 
> decide on which model to choose. How did the suggestion I made the other 
> day sound? (Combining the regular and video tutorials by adding a new 
> category for video tutos)
>
> Bart
>
> Op 14-nov-04 om 0:41 heeft Glen Moyes het volgende geschreven:
>
>> A ton of people have been downloading the video tutorials. The BitTorrent 
>> Tracker has been helping out a lot, but even with those the load was 
>> still too great for two of our community mirrors (not to mention both of 
>> my sites with a 5GB a day limit). I know that many people with BitTorrent 
>> have been downloading from our mirrors. I have a few ideas on how to 
>> convince downloaders to use bittorrent first.
>>
>> I'm considering having just the BitTorrent link on the description and 
>> then another link next to it for a non-bit torrent downlaod. Then it will 
>> bring up a pop-up page with a list of mirrors, their locations, and a 
>> notice saying that it is recommended to use BitTorrent, and where to get 
>> a client. Since a direct link to the mirror won't be on the main page 
>> that might help BitTorrent users for using a mirror just because it's 
>> faster. This is an idea, so tell me what you think.
>>
>> For now I'm going to limit the number of files that are linked to our 
>> limited bandwidth users and make sure the others are listed first. If 
>> that doesn't work than I'll have to remove the links to their sites just 
>> because one file could still take down the site (one video was 
>> responsible for 4 out of my 5 gigabyte limit, and it wasn't even listed 
>> as the first mirror). I don't want to just use BitTorrent because some 
>> people for hardware, firewall or other reasons just can't use it.
>>
>> I also want to redo the way the web page is designed. I tried to use the 
>> same method as the tutorial section uses but I don't know how to use site 
>> items. If someone can help me with that it would be appreciated. As far 
>> as my goals with this site is concerned I want to somehow unify the 
>> documentation, tutorial, and video tutorial projects. They have the same 
>> goal. It would be benificial to people using Blender if they can read a 
>> chapter in the documentation, and then have links to different tutorials 
>> and videos about the topic they just read. This is in a bit in the future 
>> but that is my goal with this project.
>>
>> - Glen Moyes (Metsys)
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