[Bf-webcontent] Convincing people to use BitTorrent for VideoTutorials

[Bart Veldhuizen]

Hi Douglas,

ah! I hadn't thought of that yet. The only solution then is to find 
some friendly mirror sites with FAT internet pipes!

Bart

Op 14-nov-04 om 22:59 heeft Doug Ollivier het volgende geschreven:

> Uggggg please don't use Bit-torrent for everything.
>
> i would like a download link to everything which has a bit-torrent 
> available too.  i agree that the bit-torrent file might look like it 
> has priority, and be easier to click etc...  it migh just say 
> "download" on it.  but i would always like a real download location to 
> get somthing from.
>
> why?  because  i live in a country where we have "limited bandwidth" 
> we get 10Gb per month.  and with bit-torrent i have found that it uses 
> more bandwidth than the file you are downloading. a 400Mb file used 
> 1.5Gb to download.  it was uploading at 5Kbps and downloading at 
> 25Kbps.   this does not add up.
>
> i got the blender arts festival DVD sent via snail mail, why?  because 
> we only had Bit-torrent available.
>
> honestly its a huge hassle, and i am not the only one.  perhaps when 
> the entire world is on broadband with unlimited bandwith will 
> bit-torrent be a good alternative.
>
> just my opinion on the matter.  (we are not yet ready for a 
> bit-torrent planet)
>
> Douglas Ollivier (Alltaken)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bart Veldhuizen" 
> <bart at vrotvrot.com>
> To: <metsys at icubenetwork.com>; "Blender3d.org web editors maillist" 
> <bf-webcontent at projects.blender.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 6:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Bf-webcontent] Convincing people to use BitTorrent for 
> VideoTutorials
>
>
>> Hi Glen,
>>
>> personally, I'm not a big fan of popup windows but I see what you're 
>> getting at. The current Typo3 templates that we use also do not 
>> support popups, so I would favor an alternate solution. Do you think 
>> it would be a problem to offer *only* bittorrent files? We could have 
>> a good central page that explains BitTorrent on the site anyway, 
>> since the new Conference Videos page 
>> (http://www.blender3d.org/cms/Blender_Conference_Videos.481.0.html) 
>> is also BitTorrent-only.
>>
>> I can help you to get started with the siteitems, but I would prefer 
>> to do this online with you. Do you ever use IRC, or some kind of 
>> instant messaging? We could use that to work on it. Before we do so 
>> though, let's decide on which model to choose. How did the suggestion 
>> I made the other day sound? (Combining the regular and video 
>> tutorials by adding a new category for video tutos)
>>
>> Bart
>>
>> Op 14-nov-04 om 0:41 heeft Glen Moyes het volgende geschreven:
>>
>>> A ton of people have been downloading the video tutorials. The 
>>> BitTorrent Tracker has been helping out a lot, but even with those 
>>> the load was still too great for two of our community mirrors (not 
>>> to mention both of my sites with a 5GB a day limit). I know that 
>>> many people with BitTorrent have been downloading from our mirrors. 
>>> I have a few ideas on how to convince downloaders to use bittorrent 
>>> first.
>>>
>>> I'm considering having just the BitTorrent link on the description 
>>> and then another link next to it for a non-bit torrent downlaod. 
>>> Then it will bring up a pop-up page with a list of mirrors, their 
>>> locations, and a notice saying that it is recommended to use 
>>> BitTorrent, and where to get a client. Since a direct link to the 
>>> mirror won't be on the main page that might help BitTorrent users 
>>> for using a mirror just because it's faster. This is an idea, so 
>>> tell me what you think.
>>>
>>> For now I'm going to limit the number of files that are linked to 
>>> our limited bandwidth users and make sure the others are listed 
>>> first. If that doesn't work than I'll have to remove the links to 
>>> their sites just because one file could still take down the site 
>>> (one video was responsible for 4 out of my 5 gigabyte limit, and it 
>>> wasn't even listed as the first mirror). I don't want to just use 
>>> BitTorrent because some people for hardware, firewall or other 
>>> reasons just can't use it.
>>>
>>> I also want to redo the way the web page is designed. I tried to use 
>>> the same method as the tutorial section uses but I don't know how to 
>>> use site items. If someone can help me with that it would be 
>>> appreciated. As far as my goals with this site is concerned I want 
>>> to somehow unify the documentation, tutorial, and video tutorial 
>>> projects. They have the same goal. It would be benificial to people 
>>> using Blender if they can read a chapter in the documentation, and 
>>> then have links to different tutorials and videos about the topic 
>>> they just read. This is in a bit in the future but that is my goal 
>>> with this project.
>>>
>>> - Glen Moyes (Metsys)
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