[Bf-translations-dev] Translation Issues Report s4

Wed Mar 20 21:17:26 CET 2013

Great! :)
I think people rename (or should rename) their objects (and other scene
elements such as materials, nodes, etc.) to something more understandable
anyway. So the problem of less understandability of international Blender
scenes will remain in either case.

cheers,
g

2013/3/20 Bastien Montagne <montagne29 at wanadoo.fr>

>  Hi Leon (and Gabriel),
>
> #1: It is not recommended, in that it makes your blend less shareable ;).
> In addition to the comprehension problem (english being the most universal
> language), you may also encounter display issues if you try to open your
> file with a basic Blender build (i.e. one without i18n support), because of
> missing fonts. So all in one, it depends on the use off your blend. But
> technically there should be no problem.
>
> #2: Makes me feel like I kinda misunderstood #1 in Gabriel's mail… :/ I
> have to check a bit more, but I *think* this should be possible. Will give
> it a try. :)
>
> Best regards,
> Bastien
>
>
> On 20/03/2013 06:48, - LEON - wrote:
>
> Well, Some of my fellows have also been raising their hands for the same
> feature as Gabriel suggested. Anyhow, I can see your point, there, Bastien.
>
>  I was just planning to suggest this in my coming "Issue Report S5".  Now
> already raised by Gabriel.  LOL
>
>  I wonder if I may ask two questions:
>
>  1. According to your explanation, Bastien, do you mean it's also NOT
> recommended to manually rename things such as default names for Scene,
> Layout, Material, Texture, etc, with customized characters of certain
> languages. In other words, does it matter much if they do so?
>
>  2. If not matters so much, then how about just make it possible for all
> NEWLY ADDED geometries? I mean, I've heard so many guys from local
> community who are expecting this to come true. Since they are kind of users
> how heavily rely on the home language for the UI, and got heavily used to
> see all newly added objects can be "auto-named" with what's familiar to
> them, instead of having to rename them manually. For example, when you
> adding a cube to the scene, you can see it's default name is Cube, and when
> you adding two or more cubes, they are auto-named like this: Cube.001,
> Cube,002, Cube.003... Well, you know they are such users who heavily rely
> on localized UI, and who much prefer blender  to auto-name objects
> (datablocks) with Chinese, especially when being added initially. In this
> case, when adding Cube to the scene, its datalock will show 立方体 (Chinese
> translation for "Cube"), and when adding or duplicating more cubes to the
> scene, they are auto-named as 立方体.001, 立方体.002,, 立方体.003... which is really
> saving a huge amount of renaming work for them.
>
>
>  Just thought whether it could be coded as optional feature, and leave
> options for users to toggle it ON / OFF, which is used "at their own
> risks". :P
>
>  However, I can see your point. Anyhow, we are just raising up the ideal
> result that's preferable for local guys.  :)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Gabriel Gazzán <gabcorreo at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> well, ok. At least I asked. :P
>> thanks for the response.
>>
>> g
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/19 Bastien Montagne <montagne29 at wanadoo.fr>
>>
>>>  Hi Gabriel,
>>>
>>> Answer is: no, and no! :P
>>>
>>> Both cases are data names, we *never* translate those in Blender (I know
>>> there are a few cases where it could turn useful, but most of the time it's
>>> rather annoying, in in some situations it can become a nightmare, because
>>> these names are used too as id for the relevant data). So all in one,
>>> making this work as needed/expected would be higly time-consuming and
>>> bug-prone, for (imho) few benefits… Thus we (I :P) decided to just never
>>> try to translate them names.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Bastien
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19/03/2013 16:23, Gabriel Gazzán wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Bastien,
>>> Regarding this...
>>> a) Could newly created scene items' names reflect the translated names?
>>> also the same for new modifiers/constraints?
>>> b) Could Preset/Screen Layouts names be translatable?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> g
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/3/18 Bastien Montagne <montagne29 at wanadoo.fr>
>>>
>>>>  Hi Leon,
>>>>
>>>> #2 Done (for DopeSheet Summary, please note that CubeAction is the name
>>>> of the Action datablock, and LocRotScale, the name of the channels' group,
>>>> both should never be translated (these are data, editable by the user, not
>>>> UI strings).
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Found a missing msgid? Edit this doc: http://goo.gl/XcWcr
>>
>> Have some disambiguation issue (i.e. same english word that should be
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>> http://goo.gl/VzppJ
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>
>
>  --
> Leon Cheung
> a.k.a. 老猫
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Remember to *NEVER* commit to our svn's /trunk, but *ALWAYS* to relevant language po file under /branches!
>
> Found a missing msgid? Edit this doc: http://goo.gl/XcWcr
>
> Have some disambiguation issue (i.e. same english word that should be translated in more than one way, depending on the context)? Edit this doc: http://goo.gl/VzppJ
> _______________________________________________
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>
> _______________________________________________
> Remember to *NEVER* commit to our svn's /trunk, but *ALWAYS* to relevant
> language po file under /branches!
>
> Found a missing msgid? Edit this doc: http://goo.gl/XcWcr
>
> Have some disambiguation issue (i.e. same english word that should be
> translated in more than one way, depending on the context)? Edit this doc:
> http://goo.gl/VzppJ
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