[Bf-taskforce25] New tools mockups

[Brian Staub]

maybe these tools should just be a scrollable extension to the Edit Menu--part of a Context Sensitive menu.




>From: William Reynish <william at reynish.com>
>To: The Blender 2.5 TaskForce <bf-taskforce25 at blender.org>
>Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:07:25 PM
>Subject: Re: [Bf-taskforce25] New tools mockups

>The tools pane doesn't have to include all tools I don't think. That's  
not really practical, like you say. For the tool settings, there's a  
lot of redundancy, like for subdivide where we have:

Type
Number of Cuts
Random Factor
Smoothness

Each of these settings only work if you set the appropriate type. But  
this can be simplified to just:

Number of Cuts
Random Factor
Smoothness

No need for a 'type' setting really. Just subdivide and set  
smoothness, cuts and random as you please. You might want multiple  
smooth cuts, for example.

For transform it's the same thing.  Proportional editing is really a  
more global setting, not local to that tool, so is axis constraining  
and snapping.

-W



On 24 Apr, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Ton Roosendaal wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the mockups. Semi transparent "overlapping" regions are
> already in the code, but need some Brecht magic still. :) Whether
> transparent or not, i'd like it when such toolbars can appear without
> changing the main view.
>
> I've today tried some toolbar already, but I'm much struggling with  
> the
> very big variation of:
>
> 1) Amount of tools (can go in 50ies)
> 2) Amount of tool properties (dozens for transform)
>
> Probably this 'toolbar' would require a fixed split for tools and
> properties, so things at least stay a bit on the same place. For tools
> we can also provide menus (like add-primitive with 10 choices), or  
> just
> fall back to using more icons?
>
> -Ton-
>
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>
> On 24 Apr, 2009, at 16:08, William Reynish wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> One of the main large hurdles left for 2.5 is the tools system. How
>> the tools work, and how to present them in the UI.
>>
>> We've talked before about adding a 'Tools' subregion within the 3d
>> view for common 3d tools, and putting them in there. It'd be nice if
>> there was some way of customizing the contents of this, however.
>> Perhaps users can press a special key while using the menus to make  
>> an
>> operator a 'favorite' or a discreet '+' icon within the tools pane  
>> can
>> give a menu full of operators.
>>
>> http://www.reynish.com/files/blender25/tools_region.png
>>
>> One of the questions is also what to do with active tools that aren't
>> in that list. And what if the tools pane is hidden? Where do we then
>> tweak the tool settings? After all, these are vital options, and are
>> needed for everything from adding objects to subdividing. One idea is
>> to then have a transparent panel within the 3d view that presents the
>> settings for tweaking the current tool, like so:
>>
>> http://www.reynish.com/files/blender25/tools_collapsed.png
>>
>> Since I love slick feedback, it'd be lovely (and useful) to have  
>> these
>> sub-regions slide in and out gracefully:
>>
>> http://www.reynish.com/files/blender25/tools_anim.mov
>>
>> ;)
>>
>> Slightly related to tools and operators is also presenting a sort of
>> history stack of all operators, where things can be repeated and made
>> into macros. To avoid adding too many new view types, this can
>> probably nicely go into the same view as the new integrated Console
>> View:
>>
>> http://www.reynish.com/files/blender25/console_view.png
>>
>> Also here, you could perhaps tweak the last operator used in any view
>> - could be useful for non-3d tools, like doing stuff in the Graph
>> Editor, perhaps? Or does that even make sense? Come to think of it, I
>> think only 3d tools have additional settings...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -William
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