[Bf-funboard] Array modifier offset sugestion

[grog tw]

Bassam that's a much better explanation, about taking offset from a second
object it should work the same as now, as it is calculated against the
original matrix... Roberto, don't fully follow the tiling example but I do
think this can useful in many ways. Array modifier looks almost the same as
in 2006, https://developer.blender.org/T3788 it proved to be a good design
but hope it can be improved a bit, in AE for instance you won't find this
offset concept in older tools.

2014-11-18 0:33 GMT-03:00 Roberto Roch <thisroomthatikeep at gmail.com>:

> This looks very handy for building tiling patterns to bake into a texture,
> having different meshes in your original object and seeing in realtime if
> they tile properly.
>
> On 18 November 2014 03:54, Bassam Kurdali <bassam at urchn.org> wrote:
>
> > Yup, it seems like kind of a cool idea; this way your original mesh,
> > instead of being the first 'instance' can be the Nth 'instance' - the
> > result changes how the array is offset relative to the object center.
> >
> > Trying to wrap my head around how this would change object-offset is
> > giving me a headache, it could be cool though.
> >
> > On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 15:35 -0300, grog tw wrote:
> > > you are right, it would just offset the initial transformation of the
> > > object, you still have the same number of copies but you displace the
> > > indices to the 'right' or to the 'left'
> > > try this: add a plane, place a solidify modifier and set offset to -10,
> > or
> > > a displace and play with strength... similar concept
> > > for modeling it would allow to have a single control object affect many
> > > setups, also keeping the origin under control -as greg says- isn't a
> > minor
> > > thing
> > >
> > > 2014-11-17 15:31 GMT-03:00 Julian Herzog <julian.hzg at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > tell me if I'm wrong, but I think the original idea was to allow, as
> > > > described in the first mail, copies "before or after" the subject. So
> > not
> > > > only copies in forward but also in backward direction, with negative
> > > > offsets. That's also what the example image shows. So basically what
> > > > Douglas wrote, but not only in positive direction 0-10, 1-11, 2-12,
> but
> > > > also, for example, -5 to 5. I do think this might be quite helpful.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Julian
> > > >
> > > > 2014-11-17 17:15 GMT+01:00 Knapp <magick.crow at gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > Trying to understand your post.
> > > > > You start with an array of 0-10 and then you increase the array to
> > 0-11
> > > > but
> > > > > don't show the first one. Correct? This gives a sort of cheap
> > animation.
> > > > Or
> > > > > you just make the array from 0-100 and only show the first 0-9 and
> > then
> > > > > 1-10 and then 2-11?? Again same effect.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:42 PM, grog tw <corazonyhuevo at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > it is a convenience thing and you can fake it with rigs and
> > > > workarounds,
> > > > > > but having it in the modifier feels like an extra axis you can
> play
> > > > with
> > > > > > -think time maybe- and as in that picture you can keep your
> object
> > > > origin
> > > > > > in place and move copies around -right now you need to calculate
> an
> > > > > > inverted transformation and move your object for each array-
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it also looks like something harmless to add, there's a place in
> > the
> > > > gui
> > > > > > for it and when set to 0 it does just nothing
> > > > > > really, if you ever used AE it is a concept you can find in
> > replicators
> > > > > and
> > > > > > plugins all the time, but also in many other packages...
> > > > > > here's a new image: https://db.tt/BoHqC7zJ
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2014-11-17 9:10 GMT-03:00 Greg Zaal <gregzzmail at gmail.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey fellows,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is the purpose of this suggestion? Is it simply to move
> the
> > > > origin
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > the center of the object (after the array)? Apart from that, I
> > don't
> > > > > > really
> > > > > > > understand how it could be useful.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Greg
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 17 November 2014 14:03, paolo lo bello <wildlux at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In your idea count offset ......create a new line of array?
> > similar
> > > > > > array
> > > > > > > > plane ... maybe
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2014-11-17 3:11 GMT+01:00 grog tw <corazonyhuevo at gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Here's a simple proposal for the array modifier that should
> > > > nicely
> > > > > > > > improve
> > > > > > > > > its functionality...
> > > > > > > > > It's an option to offset the index of duplicated meshes, so
> > you
> > > > can
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > copies 'before' or 'after' your object, it is useful for
> > modeling
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > be fun for animation too...
> > > > > > > > > here's a picture: https://db.tt/qNuJKWb0
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There's a similar setting in other softwares -both 2D and
> > 3D- and
> > > > > it
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > very powerful.
> > > > > > > > > In fact it looks so logical to have it there may be a
> reason
> > it
> > > > is
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > implemented yet...
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