[Bf-docboard] Page Updates - mesh editing; also mesh editing section thoughts

Kesten Broughton solarmobiletrailers at gmail.com
Fri Dec 28 15:59:44 CET 2012


Nice work jared,

1.  I had a quick look at a few pages and they look good.  If anyone has
time for a thorough critique of a page or two, go ahead, but Jared is an
experienced contributor so edit away!

2.  Did mindrones and co have a process for structural changes to the wiki?
 If so, we should put Jared's suggestions through it.  If not, I suggest we
use this list for discussion of the proposed adds/removals.  Perhaps after
a week, we can announce the proposed changes to bf-committers to get buy-in
from them as well.

3.  Regarding sections, I agree it's tough to tell between a ==section 2==
and ===section 3==.  I would be open to suggestions for adding additional
notation to distinguish them, however, this might be a bit of a project to
retroactively refit the whole wiki to maintain consistency.  A short script
would probably do it, but someone has to write and test it.  If wikimedia
says one ==section1== per page, i'd be reluctant to ignore that unless
there were very strong arguments for it.

kesten

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:05 AM, Jared Reisweber <jaredr122 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello, I've decided to return to help work on the wiki. (I'll try not to
> screw it up this time). It would be great to see it get finished next year.
> I've updated a bunch of mesh editing pages to reflect 2.6 and added some
> images:
>  basic editing, smooth, noise, shrink/fatten, vertex editing, mirror
> editing, face editing, mirror, edge editing, knife tool, bevel (most of
> these were empty).
> There's a bit more work todo on some of these pages.
> It's kind of alarming to see how many page views some of these empty pages
> have...
>
> I'd like to try to help update the pages to reflect all the 2.6 mesh
> editing features, however I think the organization of this section may need
> some reworking in the future (irrelevant pages, missing pages, etc.).
> Currently the pages in this section are the same as the 2.4 manual, but
> many new tools have been added.
> Right now, there are some sections for individual mesh tools, however only
> a portion of them. If mesh tools are going to have their own page, I would
> think all of them should probably have their own page, except for very
> similar tools, e.g. fill/beauty fill. However, I'm not positive that many
> of the mesh tools are significant enough to have their own page, though
> there should be some consistency. There may be some redundancy with some of
> the existing pages, for example, Vertex/Edge/Face Editing, where some tools
> on those pages are not exclusive to vertices/edges/faces.
>
> Pages that should probably be removed from index, as they are now options
> in other tools:
> Spin dup, Subdivide fractal, subdivide smooth, Extrude dup(extinct?)
> New tools I'm not sure where to put:
> Vertex connect, wireframe, inset, unsubdivide
>
>  Anyways, here is an outline<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jYTZoT3l263fp36mbp8NAPK_sKgeJIMmacd0KOsHA18/edit>of all the existing core mesh tools arranged by roughly by category (red
> text indicates tools not yet documented). I did want to put out the
> possibility of having page links go to sections of pages, maybe. This would
> allow all the tools to be exposed on the index page, but not have to have
> so many small individual pages. Just a thought.
>
> In the meantime, I will continue to help update this section as best I can.
>
> Regarding page formatting, I keep seeing pages for things where there is a
> single =section1=, and all other sections are ==section2== and
> ===section3=== under the first section. It's visually very hard to tell the
> difference between a section2 and a section3. Is there a standard for how
> sections in pages should work? It would be nice if there was a better way
> of differentiating between section2/section3 and so on, like an indent, or
> something. According to the mediawiki docs, there should only be one
> section1, but I find that it makes pages difficult to read.
>
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