[Bf-docboard] Page Update (Doc:2.6/Manual/Introduction/Installing Blender/Linux)

[Tibor Futo]

>Why are the instructions for Ubuntu 11 based on the GUI, but Ubuntu 12
are based on the CLI? Is it because Gnome is different?

Because for Ubuntu 12 with Unity you have to install additional
dependencies unless you use the CLI, and this is the simplest (gsettings is
installed by default)

But please note my advice: if the Blender developers create a mouse/key
hook that processes Alt-Click and does not allow it to propagate to the OS,
then this discussion does not need more attention.

T.


On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Fade <fade_docboard_blender at ymail.com>wrote:

> It's not the amount of text added to this particular page, it's about
> ensuring that information is added consistently and cleanly throughout
> the wiki. I'm more interested in having an easy to follow standard than
> anything else since adding in bits and pieces leads to more questions
> and work. e.g.
>
> - If someone includes the specific info from this page somewhere else in
> the wiki, will we know to update it when it changes (see below Gnome
> 3.4-->3.6)?
> - Why are the instructions for Ubuntu 11 based on the GUI, but Ubuntu 12
> are based on the CLI? Is it because Gnome is different?
> - If so, shouldn't we be listing Gnome or Window manager versions rather
> than distro versions?
> - Are the instructions for Ubuntu 11 correct if a user has upgraded
> their version of Gnome?
> - Since some distros offer mutiple versions of the same DE/WM, which one
> do we provide info for?
>
> Most distros that I know of are sitting somewhere around Gnome 3.4-3.6.
> Oddly enough, in 3.4, ALT+Click is the default for moving windows, while
> Super+Click is the default in 3.6.
>
> Plus there are distros are still offering Gnome 2 in their repositories
> since Gnome 3 hasn't been terribly popular. There is also the Cinnamon
> fork of Gnome that is packaged for a number of distros (e.g. Mint,
> openSuse etc). Mint looks like it will, if it hasn't already surpass
> Ubuntu as the most popular distro. Will there be instructions for it as
> will? I doubt that new linux users will know that Cinnamonn is a fork of
> Gnome.
>
> Having said all that, I'm not completely against mentioning the issues,
> but I think it will save us work if we either address it generically
> (e.g there's an issue, consult the relevant docs which can be found at
> this link etc) or through Kesten's ideas. After all, it's hard enough
> keeping up with and documenting the changes to Blender let alone other
> software as well. ;-)
>
> Cheers
> Fade
>
> On 19/12/12 16:34, Knapp wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Kesten Broughton
> > <solarmobiletrailers at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> it does seem inelegant to have os and windowmanager specific stuff
> sprinkled
> >> throughout the wiki.
> >> However, it's very frustrating when an instruction set doesn't work with
> >> your flavor distro.
> >>
> >> What about having a "platform specific issues" section and then general
> wiki
> >> pages could link with "there are some __platform_specific_issues__".
> >>
> >> The platform/wm specific section could be organized by major section and
> >> would hopefully but mostly empty.
> >>
> >> Another option would be to direct the reader to the Discussion tab for
> the
> >> given page, where less formal, less maintained, but still useful
> material
> >> could be tossed around.
> >>
> > I think these are good ideas but the reality is that we are talking
> > about 6 sentences. It is not like every distro has different problems
> > unless we are talking about compiling.All the distros are the same
> > once you have Blender installed. The windows managers are the only
> > thing that really changes much and with these we only have about 4
> > really popular ones with most of the problems coming from the distros
> > made for newbies and that again mostly means Gnome or maybe KDE. It
> > seems like like a big fuss for very few lines. I think the current
> > page is good.
> >
>
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