[Bf-cycles] Why remove square samples?

Thomas Dinges blender at dingto.org
Tue Aug 15 18:30:11 CEST 2017


Hey everyone,

The 2.79 release still has the Squared Samples option. It was removed in
master afterwards.

I like the various UI simplifications that were made lately in Cycles,
2.8x gives us the chance to revisit several things and simplify the UI
experience. I suggest to keep all the changes, and check what else we
can improve during 2.8x. We can revisit at any later time, if needed.

Best regards,

Thomas


Am 15.08.2017 um 18:11 schrieb Adriano Oliveira:
> Brecht, thank you for your feedback.
>
> I think squared samples is a better approach, as long as small units
> increments don't change as much. No matter what, I got used to having
> it checked and teach my students to do it so.
>
> I suggest we keep it in 2.79 and discuss it for 2.8 in the context of
> other UI changes.
>
> IMPORTANT: Sampling presets are squared samples and did not get
> revised after the change.
>
>
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> 2017-08-15 11:47 GMT-03:00 Brecht Van Lommel
> <brechtvanlommel at pandora.be <mailto:brechtvanlommel at pandora.be>>:
>
>     Square samples is purely a UI side feature, so is totally up to
>     you if you want to keep it in Cycles4D.
>
>     All user facing changes are tracked in our release notes:
>     https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Ref/Release_Notes/2.80/Cycles
>     <https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Ref/Release_Notes/2.80/Cycles>
>
>
>     On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Mohamed Sakr <3dsakr at gmail.com
>     <mailto:3dsakr at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Hi Brecht,
>
>         I hope there will be a list of all changes in the UI/Blender
>         bridge so I can re-apply them too.
>
>         cheers,
>         Mohamed Sakr
>
>         On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Brecht Van Lommel
>         <brechtvanlommel at pandora.be
>         <mailto:brechtvanlommel at pandora.be>> wrote:
>
>             Hi,
>
>             This is one of the first steps in planned changes to
>             simplify Cycles sampling for 2.8, by the end the settings
>             should look quite different and there will be more
>             readjustment needed.
>
>             We've seen users not realize this option is enabled or
>             not, leading to too many or not enough samples by
>             accident. I think it will be better in the long run to
>             have just a single way to specify the number of samples.
>             But if we get more feedback about this being a problem we
>             can consider restoring it.
>
>             Regards,
>             Brecht.
>
>
>             On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 4:12 AM, Adriano Oliveira
>             <adriano.ufrb at gmail.com <mailto:adriano.ufrb at gmail.com>>
>             wrote:
>
>                 Fellows,
>
>                  
>
>                 Just notice that square samples option was removed and
>                 that sampling presets got messed. Very annoying, I
>                 always use square samples in Cycles for years. Just
>                 don't know how to thing otherwise.
>
>                  
>
>                 Please, reconsider.
>
>
>
>                 *Adriano A. Oliveira*
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