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    <p>Hey everyone,<br>
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    <p>The 2.79 release still has the Squared Samples option. It was
      removed in master afterwards.</p>
    <p>I like the various UI simplifications that were made lately in
      Cycles, 2.8x gives us the chance to revisit several things and
      simplify the UI experience. I suggest to keep all the changes, and
      check what else we can improve during 2.8x. We can revisit at any
      later time, if needed. <br>
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    <p>Best regards,</p>
    <p>Thomas<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 15.08.2017 um 18:11 schrieb Adriano
      Oliveira:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Brecht, thank you for your feedback.
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        <div>I think squared samples is a better approach, as long as
          small units increments don't change as much. No matter what, I
          got used to having it checked and teach my students to do it
          so.</div>
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        <div>I suggest we keep it in 2.79 and discuss it for 2.8 in the
          context of other UI changes.</div>
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        <div>IMPORTANT: Sampling presets are squared samples and did not
          get revised after the change.</div>
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                          <div><b>Adriano A. Oliveira</b></div>
                          <div><span style="font-size:x-small">Coordenador
                              do Colegiado do Curso de Cinema e
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                          <div><font size="1">Matrícula: 1673892</font></div>
                          <div><font size="1">(71) 99181-0123 [VIVO]</font></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2017-08-15 11:47 GMT-03:00 Brecht Van
          Lommel <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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              moz-do-not-send="true">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">Square samples is purely a UI side feature,
              so is totally up to you if you want to keep it in
              Cycles4D.
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              <div>All user facing changes are tracked in our release
                notes:</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 4:39
                    PM, Mohamed Sakr <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                      <div dir="ltr">Hi Brecht,<br>
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                        I hope there will be a list of all changes in
                        the UI/Blender bridge so I can re-apply them
                        too.<br>
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                        cheers,<br>
                        Mohamed Sakr</div>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 15,
                              2017 at 4:31 PM, Brecht Van Lommel <span
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                                  <div>This is one of the first steps in
                                    planned changes to simplify Cycles
                                    sampling for 2.8, by the end the
                                    settings should look quite different
                                    and there will be more readjustment
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                                  <div>We've seen users not realize this
                                    option is enabled or not, leading to
                                    too many or not enough samples by
                                    accident. I think it will be better
                                    in the long run to have just a
                                    single way to specify the number of
                                    samples. But if we get more feedback
                                    about this being a problem we can
                                    consider restoring it.</div>
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                                  <div>Regards,</div>
                                  <div>Brecht.</div>
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                                    14, 2017 at 4:12 AM, Adriano
                                    Oliveira <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Just
                                                notice that square
                                                samples option was
                                                removed
                                                and that sampling
                                                presets got messed. Very
                                                annoying, I always use
                                                square
                                                samples in Cycles for
                                                years. Just don't know
                                                how to thing otherwise.<span></span></span></p>
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