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<p>Hey everyone,<br>
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<p>The 2.79 release still has the Squared Samples option. It was
removed in master afterwards.</p>
<p>I like the various UI simplifications that were made lately in
Cycles, 2.8x gives us the chance to revisit several things and
simplify the UI experience. I suggest to keep all the changes, and
check what else we can improve during 2.8x. We can revisit at any
later time, if needed. <br>
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<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Thomas<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 15.08.2017 um 18:11 schrieb Adriano
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<div dir="ltr">Brecht, thank you for your feedback.
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<div>I think squared samples is a better approach, as long as
small units increments don't change as much. No matter what, I
got used to having it checked and teach my students to do it
so.</div>
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<div>I suggest we keep it in 2.79 and discuss it for 2.8 in the
context of other UI changes.</div>
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<div>IMPORTANT: Sampling presets are squared samples and did not
get revised after the change.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-08-15 11:47 GMT-03:00 Brecht Van
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<div dir="ltr">Square samples is purely a UI side feature,
so is totally up to you if you want to keep it in
Cycles4D.
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<div>All user facing changes are tracked in our release
notes:</div>
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href="https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Ref/Release_Notes/2.80/Cycles"
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Brecht,<br>
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I hope there will be a list of all changes in
the UI/Blender bridge so I can re-apply them
too.<br>
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cheers,<br>
Mohamed Sakr</div>
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2017 at 4:31 PM, Brecht Van Lommel <span
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<div>This is one of the first steps in
planned changes to simplify Cycles
sampling for 2.8, by the end the
settings should look quite different
and there will be more readjustment
needed.</div>
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<div>We've seen users not realize this
option is enabled or not, leading to
too many or not enough samples by
accident. I think it will be better
in the long run to have just a
single way to specify the number of
samples. But if we get more feedback
about this being a problem we can
consider restoring it.</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Brecht.</div>
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14, 2017 at 4:12 AM, Adriano
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lang="EN-US">Fellows,</span><span
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lang="EN-US"><span></span></span></p>
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style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Just
notice that square
samples option was
removed
and that sampling
presets got messed. Very
annoying, I always use
square
samples in Cycles for
years. Just don't know
how to thing otherwise.<span></span></span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Please,
reconsider.<span></span></span></p>
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