[Bf-committers] Sunday meeting, Release progress

Erwin Coumans erwin at erwincoumans.com
Tue Jan 23 19:12:46 CET 2007

We should get rid of this MT_Stream.h and all those << operators, it's just 
causing hassle.

Bullet can replace both Solid and Sumo/Moto. All the Moto stuff can be 
replace by Bullet/Linearmath, also for fluid-sim and csg can use those.

Hans, can you continue what you started, perhaps you can just add a '#ifdef 
INCOMPATIBLE_DEBUGGING ' around all those problematic << occurences?
All this is just debugging, including 'BOP_Mesh::print' etc.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Eagar" <joeedh at gmail.com>
To: "bf-blender developers" <bf-committers at projects.blender.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Sunday meeting, Release progress

> Hans Lambermont wrote:
>> Ton Roosendaal wrote:
>> ...
>>> ------ Meeting
>>> The meeting had one main topic; the Python version to release with.
>>> Since Python now official is 2.5, we should support that for Blender
>>> 2.43 as well. Only for OSX, an additional Python 2.3 will still be
>>> released (since that is the default for 10.3 and 10.4 OSX).
>> Python 2.5 on FreeBSD has the same problem as Python 2.4 in the
>> GameEngine. See my mails of December 2006 (and April 2005).
>> Erwin thinks it is an STL issue, it looks like it only pops up because
>> of the iostream usage (for example in MT_Stream.h) which is used for
>> debugging only. I started to remove these debugging functions and got a
>> lot further in the compile list. I stopped at BOP_Mesh::print as I saw
>> loads of << in there. I can remove all of course, but I'm sure such a
>> commit won't be applauded ;-)
>> Possible solutions :
>> 1) Disable the gameEngine. I'd rather not do this.
>> 2) Keep using Python 2.3 . This won't work in the long run.
>> 3) Let Erwin replace Moto/Solid with Bullet. This will take some months.
> Isn't moto used by other things besides sumo/fuzzics, like fluidsim and 
> csg?  I can't really remember which things use it, but I remember it's not 
> just a sumo thing.
> Joe
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