[Bf-committers] Re: [Bf-blender-cvs] CVS commit: blender/source/blender/include BDR_sculptmode.h blender/source/blender/makesdna DNA_scene_types.h blender/source/blender/src drawview.c sculptmode.c space.c

[Nicholas Bishop]

About the Deep Paint method, I did download the demo earlier tonight
and tried it, but I don't much like the feeling; it requires a little
bit too much control, and makes my wrist ache. However, your idea of
locking it with MMB might make it less hard to use.

Regarding hotkeys that are 'definitely' safe to remove, does it still
make sense to remove them even if sculptmode doesn't actually end up
needing them for anything?

-Nicholas

On 11/19/06, Doug Olllivier <doug at mudpuddle.co.nz> wrote:
> I personally don't think there should be ANY existing hotkeys used in
> sculpt mode, at maximum, i think scale, rotate... could be usefull if
> other objects are around which need to be fitted with.
>
> Its a new "mode" which is more than just a tool so you can basicly start
> a clean slate. The only hotkeys i think should be kept are the ones that
> will switch to Vertex paint etc...
>
> Also about the D key, please, please just try the idea of having both
> strength and size on the same key but one on the X axis, and one on the
> Y axis. and Please try the download of Deep-paint-3d which i linked you
> to.  it really is the best method i have ever found,  when i first used
> it i almost had an orgasm it was so good.  please try it,  if they user
> wants to limit to either size or strength, then they can do it like
> normal with a MMB to lock it in either X or Y direction.  very fast,
> very efficient.  then we don't need two tools.
>
> For those who have never used Deep-paint-3d,  its got a great htokey
> interface for drawing,  Ctrl+ left/right and up/down will control both
> opacity and size.
>
> http://www.righthemisphere.com/support/downloads/download.php
>
> Also Nicholas, have you read the list of hotkeys that could definitely
> be safe to remove?
>
> Doug Ollivier
>
>
> Nicholas Bishop wrote:
> > On the subject of hotkeys in general, to what extent is it OK for
> > sculptmode to just "take over" hotkeys?
> >
> > For example, sculptmode doesn't disallow grab/rotate/scale, so those
> > hotkeys are still available. However, grab/rotate/scale are actually
> > needed in sculptmode? I've rarely found them useful, but my Blender
> > usage is mostly just testing my own code, rather than actually
> > creating art.
> >
> > Grab/rotate/scale is just one example; there are a lot of other keys
> > that could potentially be reassigned for sculptmode, but I need input
> > to know which ones are OK.
> >
> > -Nicholas
> >
> > On 11/19/06, Matt Ebb <matt at mke3.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 19/11/2006, at 08:01 AM, Nicholas Bishop wrote:
> >>
> >> nicholasbishop (Nicholas Bishop) 2006/11/18 22:01:25 CET
> >>   Generalized the sculptmode propset (DKEY) to work with strength as
> >> well as
> >>   brush size. Pressing the key once does brush size (same as before),
> >> then
> >>   pressing it a second time switches to setting brush strength.
> >> This would be much better on it's own directly accessible hotkey, then
> >> having to cycle through. Cycling is not only slower, having to go
> >> through
> >> other irrelevant tools before you can access the one you want, but
> >> there's
> >> also more cognitive overhead for users, having to keep track of some
> >> arbitrary state of the system (counting how many times it has been
> >> pressed
> >> and what 'mini-mode' it's currently in). If a user wants to change the
> >> strength, he wants to change the strength. It should be as immediately
> >> accessible as possible.
> >>
> >> This also goes for changing brush tools, it would be much better if
> >> there
> >> were direct hotkeys to change between different tools (as in
> >> photoshop/gimp)
> >> rather than having to use the Ctrl Tab menu and make a selection from
> >> there.
> >> Sculpt mode is a completely new mode, and there's almost complete
> >> freedom
> >> with the available hotkeys to come up with a key configuration that's
> >> really
> >> nice and ergonomic, so that's what should be done :)
> >>
> >> cheers
> >>
> >> Matt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------
> >> Matt Ebb . matt at mke3.net . http://mke3.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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