[Bf-committers] Re: [Bf-blender-cvs] CVS commit: blender/source/blender/include BDR_sculptmode.h blender/source/blender/makesdna DNA_scene_types.h blender/source/blender/src drawview.c sculptmode.c space.c

[Doug Olllivier]

I personally don't think there should be ANY existing hotkeys used in 
sculpt mode, at maximum, i think scale, rotate... could be usefull if 
other objects are around which need to be fitted with.

Its a new "mode" which is more than just a tool so you can basicly start 
a clean slate. The only hotkeys i think should be kept are the ones that 
will switch to Vertex paint etc...

Also about the D key, please, please just try the idea of having both 
strength and size on the same key but one on the X axis, and one on the 
Y axis. and Please try the download of Deep-paint-3d which i linked you 
to.  it really is the best method i have ever found,  when i first used 
it i almost had an orgasm it was so good.  please try it,  if they user 
wants to limit to either size or strength, then they can do it like 
normal with a MMB to lock it in either X or Y direction.  very fast, 
very efficient.  then we don't need two tools.

For those who have never used Deep-paint-3d,  its got a great htokey 
interface for drawing,  Ctrl+ left/right and up/down will control both 
opacity and size.

http://www.righthemisphere.com/support/downloads/download.php

Also Nicholas, have you read the list of hotkeys that could definitely 
be safe to remove?

Doug Ollivier


Nicholas Bishop wrote:
> On the subject of hotkeys in general, to what extent is it OK for
> sculptmode to just "take over" hotkeys?
>
> For example, sculptmode doesn't disallow grab/rotate/scale, so those
> hotkeys are still available. However, grab/rotate/scale are actually
> needed in sculptmode? I've rarely found them useful, but my Blender
> usage is mostly just testing my own code, rather than actually
> creating art.
>
> Grab/rotate/scale is just one example; there are a lot of other keys
> that could potentially be reassigned for sculptmode, but I need input
> to know which ones are OK.
>
> -Nicholas
>
> On 11/19/06, Matt Ebb <matt at mke3.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 19/11/2006, at 08:01 AM, Nicholas Bishop wrote:
>>
>> nicholasbishop (Nicholas Bishop) 2006/11/18 22:01:25 CET
>>   Generalized the sculptmode propset (DKEY) to work with strength as 
>> well as
>>   brush size. Pressing the key once does brush size (same as before), 
>> then
>>   pressing it a second time switches to setting brush strength.
>> This would be much better on it's own directly accessible hotkey, then
>> having to cycle through. Cycling is not only slower, having to go 
>> through
>> other irrelevant tools before you can access the one you want, but 
>> there's
>> also more cognitive overhead for users, having to keep track of some
>> arbitrary state of the system (counting how many times it has been 
>> pressed
>> and what 'mini-mode' it's currently in). If a user wants to change the
>> strength, he wants to change the strength. It should be as immediately
>> accessible as possible.
>>
>> This also goes for changing brush tools, it would be much better if 
>> there
>> were direct hotkeys to change between different tools (as in 
>> photoshop/gimp)
>> rather than having to use the Ctrl Tab menu and make a selection from 
>> there.
>> Sculpt mode is a completely new mode, and there's almost complete 
>> freedom
>> with the available hotkeys to come up with a key configuration that's 
>> really
>> nice and ergonomic, so that's what should be done :)
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
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>>
>>
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