[Bf-docboard] Keyboard shortcut convention

Thu Nov 27 14:27:44 CET 2014

I have an issue with using “+" for indicating that we click modifier key with a regular key..
If we go for Ctrl+A for example, how would we handle a combination of Ctrl and +?
It would look like Ctrl++?
The workaround would of-course be using PLUS, or NUMPLUS as the name of the key.

Bartek Skorupa

www.bartekskorupa.com

> On 27 lis 2014, at 14:20, Greg Zaal <gregzzmail at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It's not really a big deal I think. If nobody has any strong reason not to do so, I'd like to propose :kbd:`Ctrl` + :kbd:`A` as the standard.
> 
> I know it's a bit painful to type, but you can always set up a snippet in your text editor to do the hard work for you (on sublime: http://www.pasteall.org/55378/html4strict <http://www.pasteall.org/55378/html4strict> )
> 
> And we should always use upper case (or camel case rather), as in [Ctrl] + [A] and not [ctrl] + [a].
> 
> If it's agreed, I'll check the existing content and make it all consistent.
> 
> Cheers,
> Greg
> 
> On 27 November 2014 at 14:26, Piotr Arlukowicz <piotao at polskikursblendera.pl <mailto:piotao at polskikursblendera.pl>> wrote:
> Just my two cents,
> 
> I opt for single keys shown always in uppercase for clarity and visibility.
> 
> It is clear then:
> 
> A is just single a.
> Shift+A is just A with shift
> 
> Using lowercase for 's' and uppercase 'S' for Shift-s is bad because they are not visible enough. The same for u and U, z and Z, o and O, etc.
> 
> regards
> Piotr
> 
> 
> Piotr
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> 
> 2014-11-27 13:12 GMT+01:00 S J Bennett <quollism at ii.net <mailto:quollism at ii.net>>:
> Sorry to bikeshed but it'd be nice to have this pinned down. I don't
> want to have to go back and tediously re-edit something as omnipresent
> as hotkeys.
> 
> I did a quick bit of research to see if there's any broader consensus:
> - Reaper uses [Ctrl]+[Alt]+Right-Click & Drag
>    http://wiki.cockos.com/wiki/index.php/Item_Editing <http://wiki.cockos.com/wiki/index.php/Item_Editing>
> - Houdini says [Ctrl] + [Tab] (boxed text, linking plus)
>    http://www.sidefx.com/docs/houdini13.0/basics/panes <http://www.sidefx.com/docs/houdini13.0/basics/panes>
> - Maya has special graphics for Alt, Shift, Space etc and also uses a
> linking + outside the boxes
> http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/maya2014/en_us/files/GUID-C8C48B82-85C3-427E-8CE5-E99942FACE0D.htm <http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/maya2014/en_us/files/GUID-C8C48B82-85C3-427E-8CE5-E99942FACE0D.htm>
>    Maya also documents its hotkeys in plain lowercase which isn't the
> most readable thing
> http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/maya2014/en_us/files/Transforming_objects_Move_rotate_or_scale_objects_and_components.htm <http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/maya2014/en_us/files/Transforming_objects_Move_rotate_or_scale_objects_and_components.htm>
> - This article about Photoshop uses Shift+Alt+P and Cmd+Shift+U
> highlighted in bold - no spaces or boxes
> http://www.creativebloq.com/photoshop/photoshop-shortcuts-1012966 <http://www.creativebloq.com/photoshop/photoshop-shortcuts-1012966>
> 
> The plus seems to be a pretty standard indication of "press all these
> keys at once". Unlike in :kbd:`Ctrl+A` the plus doesn't tend to appear
> in the box itself when there is a box. For me [Ctrl] + [A] is visually
> less problematic than [Ctrl+A] - it's less crammed together and more
> legible as a result. Separating the different keys into their boxes
> makes the box around [Ctrl] etc a reliable visual metaphor for a single key.
> 
> What does everyone think?
> 
> Also any thoughts on whether to make single keys like 'k' or 'g'
> uppercase or lowercase when describing them as shortcuts? The monospace
> font I'm seeing on my system indicates a clear difference between 1, l
> and I so it's really down to a question of what we prefer.
> 
> cheers,
> Simon
> 
> On 27/11/2014 2:43 AM, Campbell Barton wrote:
> > I don't have really strong opinion, but prefer:
> >
> >   :kbd:`Ctrl+A`
> >
> > Its just easier to type and if you want to chain key bindings its a
> > bit clearer whats going on.
> >
> > eg:
> >   :kbd:`Ctrl+F`,  :kbd:`W`
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:38 PM, S J Bennett <quollism at ii.net <mailto:quollism at ii.net>> wrote:
> >> I dig :kbd:`Ctrl` + :kbd:`a` for simultaneous commands, :kbd:`g` :kbd:`x`
> >> for sequential commands and :kbd:`g` :kbd:`xx` for key-repeat sequential
> >> commands.
> >>
> >> I feel like LMB MMB and RMB look better as caps as well.
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Simon
> >>
> >>
> >> On 26/11/2014 11:53 PM, Greg Zaal wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey folks,
> >>
> >> How are we handling keyboard shortcuts with modifiers?
> >>
> >> The style guide (http://www.blender.org/documentation/style-guide <http://www.blender.org/documentation/style-guide>) simply
> >> shows ":kbd:`Lmb`", but what should we do for things like Ctrl + A?
> >>
> >> Possibilities include:
> >>
> >> :kbd:`Ctrl+A`
> >> :kbd:`Ctrl-A`  (this is used in some places already, but it's not common to
> >> use '-')
> >> :kbd:`Ctrl` + :kbd:`A`  (this is the prettiest imo)
> >> :kbd:`Ctrl A`
> >>
> >> What do you think?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Greg Zaal
> >>
> >>
> >>
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