[Uni-verse] Members to the advisory board
Lauri Savioja
las at tml.hut.fi
Mon Feb 7 21:23:52 CET 2005
Hei all,
Ton, I see your worry related to the "importance" of the people in the
advisory board. The reasons for my proposal are the following:
1) I know personally both of the persons, and I don't have
difficulties to discuss with them of our project. As far as I know
them, they are open-minded to new research ideas.
2) Both of them are well-known professionals in the area, and I
respect their opinion.
So, if we aim to have open discussion in the advisory board, and have
possibility to gain new ideas I still consider my proposal reasonable.
Regards,
Lauri
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005, Peter Becker wrote:
> Hi Ton and all,
>
> Good we have this discussion. I think we all agree on
> the need of external relations for bi-directional
> information.
>
> The difference seems to me to relate to degree of
> organisation, understanding Ton not wanting a heavy
> organisational structure. Actually I think no one
> wants.
>
> But an official advisory board,
> - would mark an interest for dialogue from our side
> both to externals and the commission
> - could return valuable remarks to our development work
> - could create a *shared* dialogue with externals
> - could be on a low level of organisation, a well
> defined group, with a couple of meetings along the
> way, and some documents shared
> - could be documented in final report by an informal
> report (or a more amibitous document)
> - could be a merit for an external expert to join
>
> A good dialogue with a board, which is just advisory,
> not steering, would also be part of dissemination.
>
> So I think we should agree on tasks and structure for
> an advisory board.
>
> mvh
> Peter Becker
>
>
> Sunday, February 6, 2005, 12:49:25 PM, skrev du:
>
> TR> Hi all,
>
> TR> In an online meeting with Gert I asked him to contact this list to
> TR> explain the Advisary Board idea further, and propose how to proceed
> TR> with the idea. The reactions from Torbjorn and Lauri until now really
> TR> worry me... we are going far beyond what is reasonable or manageable,
> TR> and shouldn't start something presumptious we cannot realize and in the
> TR> end will only lead to disappointment or to problems with the EU due to
> TR> delivery failures.
>
> TR> Here's the advisary board text as included in the original Universe doc;
>
> TR> ---------------
> TR> A board of advisors will be created within the framework of the
> TR> project. The members will be representatives from companies especially
> TR> SMEs and from the open source community with experience from designing
> TR> products based on 3D graphics and games and communication services.
> TR> Many of them haven’t succeeded the way they hoped for. One of the major
> TR> reasons is that the platforms that are ready to use today do not offer
> TR> modular and scaleable functionality. The services and products have
> TR> limited functionality and the cost to ad functionality is immense. The
> TR> board will give the project most valuable end-user input and advice
> TR> about how Uni-Verse should work.
> TR> ------------------
>
> TR> This text is very general, and doesn't imply to start up something
> TR> ambitious. It also can be exactly the 'Architecture Review Board' as
> TR> Eskil already mentioned in the first workshops.
> TR> Or, if this is something else, we have to clearly map out the
> TR> responsibilities of both boards.
>
> TR> I advise to stick to the KISS strategy here, and define the absolute
> TR> simplest most feasible concept for this board. For simplicity I also
> TR> think we can stick to a single board, targeted to provide feedback to
> TR> *Verse* as protocol (not uni-verse, that's us). The board also is part
> TR> of the future exploitation, and cannot be a dissemination target.
> TR> Actually, it's a result of succesful dissemination.
>
> TR> For the exploitation/dissemination plans we then only have to sort out:
>
> TR> - what exactly the role of the board will be
> TR> - that the first members of the boards are some of the uni-verse
> TR> partners
> TR> - that new members will be found and appointed, based on past Verse
> TR> experience and/or contributions to Verse.
>
> TR> The way how OpenGL or other Open Standard consortiums organize can be
> TR> used as an example here. We need to be ready for installing such
> TR> boards, but I don't like it as a means to advertise Verse and ask
> TR> famous people to join... if we want that as a dissemination force,
> TR> let's call it the "Endorsement Committee" or so.
>
> TR> I also like to see Eskil's input on this, since he has ideas on the
> TR> Architecture Board since the beginning.
>
> TR> -Ton-
>
>
>
> TR> On 29 Jan, 2005, at 20:28, Gert Svensson wrote:
>
> >> Dear Friends,
> >>
> >> in the contract we have promised to set up an advisory board.
> >> We haven't done much about this yet but time has now come to address
> >> this.
> >>
> >> The advisory boards will meet a couple of times during the lifetime
> >> of the project possible in connection with some other large events
> >> (maybe SIGGRAPH).
> >> The role of the board is to give advice on the development work in the
> >> work and also
> >> about dissemination and exploitation.
> >>
> >> The members of the board shall be experts with broad experience in 3D
> >> Graphics, Games, VR, Audio etc.
> >>
> >> I have promised Ton and Angela to help setting up this board.
> >>
> >> The next step would be to list companies and organizations to ask to
> >> be members of this advisory group.
> >> I would like to include those POTENTIAL names in the dissemination and
> >> exploitation plan.
> >>
> >> So if each person/partner/group could come up with some potential
> >> contacts which we will prioritize and
> >> address later.
> >>
> >> Please send the name of the companies/organizations together with a
> >> short description to me within a week from now.
> >>
> >> I have talked to some experiences project managers and they claimed
> >> that such a group had given them invaluable
> >> input in previous projects.
> >>
> >> Best Regards
> >> Gert
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> >>
> >>
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