[Network] The point of 'Links'?

Tue Aug 21 06:13:47 CEST 2012

I agree we can try recommendation letter similar like linkedin, and
show the letter details in member's page. Then everyone can read the
value of link and inditify the relationship  between two members.

On 8/21/12, Andrew Price <andrew at blenderguru.com> wrote:
> I agree with everything Jonathan said.
>
> I personally think that a simply drop down box asking you to state your
> relationship would be good.
>
> Eg. *John Doe has requested you link to him as his "Freelance employer"*
>
> Some other choices may be:
>
>    - Freelance employee
>    - Freelance employer
>    - Personal friend
>    - Employee
>    - Employer
>    - Project Collaborator
>
> Then add others as people request them. (Employee/Employer roles could be
> more complicated as it will need to switch to the opposite for the other
> contact).
>
> It would have to be made so that listing the type of relationship is
> compulsory. Otherwise, as Jonathan said, it will just become another
> worthless "Look how many friends I have!" type of social network.
>
> Also, it would be nice to able to change to the relationships of people we
> are already linked to now.
>
> Just my thoughts.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Francesco Paglia
> <f.paglia.80 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> In my opinion "blender friends" are part of my entourage even if I've
>> never done business with them, however we should clearly separate both
>> kind
>> of relationship.
>> Let me say if in a future when we can describe each work as an entity
>> with
>> property (hugly mock up...I'm on Holiday sorry) :
>>
>> (for each project)
>> __________________________________
>> *Project name: *my super commercial*
>> Date: *2012.08.20*
>> Link to video / image / etc. *www.youtube.com/mysupercommercial*
>> Description: *It has been fun bla bla bla*. ....
>> My Effort: *Lighter / Compositor
>> *Credits: *mycoworker1 (modeler)*
>>              *mycoworker2 (texture, shading)*
>> **__________________________________
>> *
>> If you imagine any artist / company page full of this information you
>> will
>> end up with:
>> *
>> The artists offer become real *(at the moment the majority of the
>> freelancers offer almost every kind of service this will shrink to the
>> real
>> world what people do);
>> *The true relationship between people* and the kind of support they added
>> to the project;
>> the creation of *a repository of coworker *divided by that one reserved
>> to friends:
>> also recommendation could be added (but this is not referred to the
>> project widget).
>> *
>> *A solution like this will *increase the network activity* (since people
>> linked could add the project to its own page like if it is a simple
>> widget)
>> *
>> *and *define the story of an artist / company / professor growing as it's
>> job grows.
>>
>> *What do you think?
>>
>> staying on actual solution Bart, I think at least you have to add a
>> button
>> to say "refuse connection" and let people say why with a message :)
>>
>> Hope you (all) find my idea interesting :)
>> Later,
>> Francesco
>>
>> *
>>
>> *
>> 2012/8/20 Bart Veldhuizen <bart at blendernetwork.org>
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> yes, I've already discussed that with Ton. It just wasn't feasible to
>>> have that function ready before siggraph though.. How do you think it
>>> should work / what kind of relationships should you be able to add? What
>>> if
>>> someone adds a links as 'someone I've done business with', while you
>>> think
>>> he's only 'someone I've known on the forum for years'?
>>>
>>> Let's think this one out before I start building :)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Bart
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:37 PM, John R. Nyquist
>>> <blender at nyquist.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> The links do need clarification as to their purpose. Functionally, they
>>>>  impact search results, therefore they become important to business.
>>>>
>>>> I've always liked how LinkedIn does recommendations, those are not the
>>>> simple click of a button. A person has to actually take time and thought
>>>> to
>>>> give one.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> John R. Nyquist
>>>> Nyquist Art + Logic
>>>> 864-NYQ-UIST
>>>> http://nyquist.net/
>>>> http://AstraItinera.com/ <http://astraitinera.com/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Jonathan Lax <
>>>> jonathan at geckoanimation.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've received tons of emails from people wanting to link with my
>>>>> company profile.  People I've never even met, let alone done business
>>>>> with.
>>>>>  With no context or description of these 'links' the network will not
>>>>> be
>>>>> considered a reliable source of information about Blender
>>>>> professionals.
>>>>>
>>>>> If links are associated with any 'ranking' system on the network its
>>>>> just simply going to become an incestuous group of those willing to
>>>>> accept
>>>>> links with people they've not actually done business with.  Links
>>>>> should be
>>>>> tied with case studies so roles, transactions and interaction are
>>>>> documented.  This would then mean that these links can be considered
>>>>> an
>>>>> asset or proof of genuine Blender-related activity/professionalism.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course all networks online are heavily biased and full of false
>>>>> information depending on how much money is being paid etc.  I may just
>>>>> be
>>>>> naive in thinking Blender's could be different, certainly in its early
>>>>> stages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not have links related to specific case studies or projects, so
>>>>> anyone viewing a profile can see the extent to which 2 members have
>>>>> worked
>>>>> together?  With no context, the links are worth nothing and only serve
>>>>> as
>>>>> points to be gathered to boost rankings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan Lax
>>>>> Gecko Animation Ltd.
>>>>> UK
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Francesco Paglia
>> Vfx and Production Supervisor
>>
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>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Andrew Price
> http://www.blenderguru.com
>

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