[Bf-taskforce25] Proposal: .B.blend -> startup.blend
bassam
bkurdali at freefactory.org
Wed May 6 18:57:03 CEST 2009
-1 to making it visible in your home dir (this would be an even worse
mess then now, and worse for new users "my settings all went away! oh
yeah, I deleted that weird file, didn't think I needed it...", but +1 to
sticking it .blender/ or better .config/blender/
this is a bit of a bikeshed though.
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 12:29 -0300, Mango Jambo wrote:
> +1 ...
> but I would like to have the option to hide it on my home folder, like
> how it is now. I don't access this folder all the time, so, imho, is
> not a big deal to have it hide.
>
> So, may be an option on Blender to search for a blender/ folder, and
> if do not find it, search for a .blender/ folder next. Same for
> startup.blend file. That means, if is decided to have the folder
> unhide by default, we still with the option to hide this folder only
> renaming (for lin and osx users).
>
> Moraes Junior - aka mangojambo
> 3D Artist Animator
>
>
> 2009/5/6 Ken Hughes <khughes at pacific.edu>
> +1. I hate all the dot files I have already in my home dir
> and would
> like to see some hierarchy followed.
>
> Ken
>
> Xavier Thomas wrote:
> > Would be great, but I think the freedesktop standard
> recommend:
> > /home/user/.config/blender/files-here
> >
> > 2009/5/6 Campbell Barton <ideasman42 at gmail.com
>
> > <mailto:ideasman42 at gmail.com>>
> >
> > +1
> > on linux .B.blend is in the home dir. Id prefer it be in
> the .blender/
> > dir so as not to dump more crap in my home dir then
> needed.
> >
> > from...
> > /home/me/.B.blend
> > to...
> > /home/me/.blender/startup.blend
> >
> > same goes for /home/me/.Blog
> >
> > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Kernon Dillon
> <kernond at gmail.com
>
> > <mailto:kernond at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > +10
> > > I think the more we move away from cryptic names the
> better.
> > >
> > > Also, if the console window will still exist in 2.5 it
> would be
> > great if the
> > > window was given a descriptive title (e.g. Blender
> Console).
> > This would make
> > > it easier to switch between applications because,
> currently,
> > it's too
> > > similar to the main Blender window (similar title,
> same icon).
> > >
> > > Thanks for considering it,
> > > Kernon
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Matt Ebb
> <matt at mke3.net
>
>
> > <mailto:matt at mke3.net>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I noticed the new .b25.blend addition, which got me
> thinking a bit.
> > >>
> > >> At winter camp, we agreed that we should move to
> better folder
> > >> locations for resource files, especially on OSX. For
> example,
> > moving
> > >> the contents of the .blender folder that's hidden
> inside the
> > >> application bundle to /Users/UserName/Application
> Data/blender/
> > where
> > >> it's easily accessible, and as the platform standards
> dictate.
> > >>
> > >> We should apply the same logic to the .B.blend file.
> For such an
> > >> important file, it's terribly inaccessible and
> difficult to
> > edit. It's
> > >> necessary to be able to access this file for various
> reasons
> > >> including:
> > >> * For testing/debugging, being able to rename your
> existing
> > config and
> > >> test by making a clean file, and renaming back after
> testing
> > >> * As an artist, packing up your config to take to a
> new workstation
> > >> * Switching between configs for different users on
> the same
> > workstation
> > >>
> > >> This is currently very difficult:
> > >> * On Mac OS X, files beginning with . are hidden by
> the finder, so
> > >> even if they were to by chance look in the
> non-standard
> > location where
> > >> it's kept, most users wouldn't even know it exists.
> > >> * On Windows, dot files are visible in Explorer, but
> difficult to
> > >> manage. It's impossible to rename a file
> to .something.ext, it
> > >> requires characters before the first dot.
> > >> * Even on many linux systems, dot files are hidden by
> default
> > in the
> > >> file browser.
> > >>
> > >> A good first step would be to just rename
> the .B.blend file to
> > >> startup.blend.
> > >>
> > >> Not only would it be vastly easier to work with and
> manipulate
> > on the
> > >> various systems that Blender supports, but it also
> gives users
> > a much
> > >> better indication about the file's purpose. Then,
> when (as we also
> > >> talked about at winter camp [1]) we separate this
> file out to one
> > >> containing startup UI settings, and one containing
> preferences,
> > we can
> > >> give them logical names like startup.blend and
> preferences.blend
> > >>
> > >> So.. comments? :)
> > >>
> > >> cheers,
> > >>
> > >> Matt
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> [1]
> > >>
> >
> http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/BlenderDev/Blender2.5/WinterCamp/EditorReviews
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