[Bf-taskforce25] defaults & tweaks list

[Nathan Vegdahl]

> That's the plan, eventually. Some of the tools (mainly
> the stroke drawing) might be reused for drawing
> curves too (NURBS and Bezier I mean).

That would be very cool.

> Quick "mode" already does that,

   Yup.  And if we make it a tool rather than a mode, couldn't that be
how it always behaves?  To me, anyway, having the curves stay
persistently doesn't really feel compatible with a tool mentality.  A
tool would be, "Stroke, get bones.  Stroke again, get more bones."

> That's not the only mode of operation
> though, persistent strokes with overdrawing
> and adjustment gestures is useful too.

   Absolutely, the redrawing tools are very useful.  But couldn't they
be made part of the stroke process, prior to right-clicking to
confirm?
   I guess I'm just not seeing the use-cases for persistent curve strokes.

   It would be cool to also, as a separate feature, have a
non-destructive system where the user creates bezier curves, which
then act as a sort of persistent generator of bones.  i.e. the bones
are continuously generated procedurally, so as you adjust the bezier
curve the bones move to.  Then with a multi-tentacle monster, for
example, the curves would be edited to make adjustments rather than
the bones themselves.

   But the etchaton workflow is highly linear and destructive: once
the bones are generated they have no relationship to the curve
anymore.  And that doesn't really lend itself to persistent curves, I
think.  It's more like a tool for rapidly creating bones.

--Nathan V


On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Martin Poirier<theeth at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 7/12/09, Nathan Vegdahl <cessen at cessen.com> wrote:
>
>> In both 2.4x and 2.5 etchaton seems very mode-like to
>> me.  I wonder if
>> it can be made more into "just another bone-edit-mode
>> tool", somehow?
>
> That's the plan, eventually. Some of the tools (mainly the stroke drawing) might be reused for drawing curves too (NURBS and Bezier I mean).
>
>> One possibility:
>>    Hit a key, start drawing.  When
>> you're done, it automatically
>> converts into bones.
>>    Then thanks to 2.5's ability to adjust
>> the last operator, you can
>> tweak the results through those settings in real time.
>
> Quick "mode" already does that, the problem with the second point is that the data structures aren't part of the undo system, so operator tweak doesn't do anything (that will have to be fixed too).
>
> That's not the only mode of operation though, persistent strokes with overdrawing and adjustment gestures is useful too.
>
>>    I'm really not fond of the current "Use
>> Bone Sketching" toggle.  It
>> should just always be available as a tool.  The user
>> shouldn't have to
>> "enable" it, IMO.
>
> Agreed. A visibility toggle (for normal mode) might be useful too though.
>
> Martin
>
>
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