[Bf-taskforce25] Widget Colouring Suggestion

[Brian Staub]

here's exclamation marks instead of the smiley icon for the Expression Keys...

http://invertednormal.wordpress.com/files/2009/04/widgetcolors04.png





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From: Shaul Kedem <shaul.kedem at gmail.com>
To: The Blender 2.5 TaskForce <bf-taskforce25 at blender.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 8:21:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Bf-taskforce25] Widget Colouring Suggestion

>A functional note: if we have this little emblems on the top we can
>use them as levers for sliders, and so, if someone press and drag them
>right they increment in small amount and if dragged to the left they
>decrement in small amount. we can even increment in larger numbers if
>the emblem is dragged further to the right or decrement more if
>dragged more to the left.

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:29 AM, Brian Staub <brian.staub at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> ________________________________
> for the color blind...
>
> http://invertednormal.wordpress.com/files/2009/04/widgetcolors03.png
>
> From: Rob Cozzens <robcozzens at gmail.com>
> To: The Blender 2.5 TaskForce <bf-taskforce25 at blender.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 11:54:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Bf-taskforce25] Widget Colouring Suggestion
>
> One point about color coding this keying info... it makes it less useful for
> people with certain types of color-blindness. I think version #5 has the
> most promise, because it could be a theme option to have a different symbol
> in those badges in addition to/instead of color.
> I guess as long as the colors are changeable, any of those versions could
> be usable for the color-blind with some tweaking.
> -Rob
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Brian Staub <brian.staub at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> mmm k... grrrr....  sorry again.  let's try this one more time.  this link
>> should work  =/
>>
>> http://invertednormal.wordpress.com/files/2009/04/widgetcolors013.png
>>
>>
>> > Ton Roosendaal wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > These special state-widgets, just like text outside buttons, work
>> > nicely in layouts that are strictly displayed as a list
>> >
>> >
>> > Such features can be part of "Style" definitions, so it can be added
>> > where appropriate.
>> >
>> > Further there's plenty of subtle ways to explore; here's a quicky I
>> > did, the button outline code is a quad strip, so can be any width;
>> > http://download.blender.org/institute/rt.jpg
>> > Or just color items in button:
>> > http://download.blender.org/institute/rt2.jpg
>> >
>> > Still; a problem with color coding remains that you have drop (part of)
>> > the freedom to assign colors to visualize widget types. Color encoding
>> > is very limited and with more than just a few colors it starts looking
>> > messy and loses meaning.
>> >
>> > -Ton-
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Ton Roosendaal  Blender Foundation  ton at blender.org    www.blender.org
>> > Blender Institute BV  Entrepotdok 57A  1018AD Amsterdam The Netherlands
>> >
>> > On 5 Apr, 2009, at 21:03, William Reynish wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 5 Apr, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Ton Roosendaal wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > This is of course a temporary situation. We're experimenting with it.
>> > :)
>> >
>> > The basic idea remains that widget coloring will be derived from a set
>> > of theme colors you've defined yourself, visualizing widget
>> > functionality or widget types, and matching the overal looks you want.
>> >
>> > We will also check smaller and more subtle ways to show animated
>> > variables. We could make the layout engine add space for a small
>> > icon/button, allowing standard input methods to edit it, and visualize
>> > whether the variable has a function curve, is being driven, or
>> > controlled by expression, and allowing a way to make a function curve
>> > editor to show the curve/driver.
>> >
>> > One thing is quite cool of the current flashy coloring though; it's
>> > totally clear and obvious for debugging purposes. Might be worth
>> > putting a theme option in Blender that does it, so you can optionally
>> > switch to it on a simple command, and back. :)
>> >
>> >
>> > We have to find a balance where this information is as clear as
>> > possible, yet not totally distracting. Current solution isn't too bad
>> > I don't think - like you say it's obvious, yet non-intrusive whenever
>> > that information is not needed or not focused on - buttons that are
>> > not animated keep looking normal. However, I appreciate that
>> > there definitely are other solutions and it'd be nice if anyone with
>> > other ideas could scribble them down and preferably do some visual
>> > mockups of buttons in animated/expression/keyframe/driven states.
>> >
>> > The problems with having a separate icon for animation states
>> > are twofold: first, you have to create a visual connection between it
>> > and the 'parent' widget, and second, you have much more clutter and
>> > information in the users face. These special state-widgets, just like
>> > text outside buttons, work nicely in layouts that are strictly
>> > displayed as a list - a la Apple Motion, XSI, etc, but probably not so
>> > much in Blender where buttons layouts so far are a lot more varied.
>> >
>> > -William
>> >
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