[Bf-modeling] Hidden Wire Improvements

[Jonathan Williamson]

Thanks Campbell! Is the consensus that it's doable, but challenging and
likely ugly?

Jonathan Williamson
http://cgcookie.com


On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Campbell Barton <ideasman42 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi there,
> I wanted to write a less-lame reply - but I'm afraid all of these
> options are fairly involved. Mainly because it means drawing in
> multiple passes - which is done in editmode, but would need to be
> extended for all objects.
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Jonathan Williamson
> <jonathan at cgcookie.com> wrote:
> > Now that trunk is open again I've got a couple improvements I'd love to
> see
> > for Hidden Wire. This comes from my own experience working with it and
> from
> > user feedback.
> >
> >
> > Support Wireframe Mode
> > Currently hidden wire only works in shaded mode. But this seems a bit
> > backwards as hidden wire effectively is a wireframe draw mode, as it
> removes
> > all face drawing (as it should).
>
> I realize this doesnt make much sense from user POV - hidden wire _is_
>  using zbuffer occlusion.
> wireframe drawing disables this and there are checks all over the code
> 'v3d->zbuf'.
> So it can be done but it means we would need a not too horrible way of
> using depth buffer even when drawing in wire mode without very
> confusing checks all over the code.
>
> > My proposal is to support hidden wire in both wireframe and solid mode.
> > Wireframe support is needed for clean mesh drawing in the viewport. Solid
> > support is needed while retopo'ing a highresolution mesh, and most all
> > retopo is done in solid mode.
> >
> >
> > Support Multiple Objects
> > One great benefit to hidden wire is the much cleaner display in the
> > viewport. It would be very beneficial to extend this to multiple objects
> for
> > a very clean display.
> >
> > Even with only a few objects the benefits are instantly clear. This is so
> > messy: http://cl.ly/Rquv
> >
> > I think hidden wire should be a scene-wide option, affecting all objects
> > within the scene.
> >
> >
> > Support Object Mode
> > Currently hidden wire only works in Edit Mode. As the above points touch
> on,
> > adding Object Mode support would be great for making a very clean
> viewport.
> > It also improves drawing consistency so the user isn't confused why the
> > drawing mode keeps changing.
>
> It could be made to work with the active object - like matcaps -
> having multiple passes and adding complexity for all objects in the
> scene, I'm wary of.
>
> We also plan on refactoring the view-port code, something IMHO we
> should aim at sooner then later.
>
> >
> > Jonathan Williamson
> > http://cgcookie.com
> >
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