[Bf-gamedev] Blender on Steam
Jeremias Boos
Jeremias.boos at gmx.de
Sun Aug 3 01:38:01 CEST 2014
Hmm Yeah I get your point there.
I certainly have written more than this 7 e-mails.
Nearly 2 Years ago I wrote on the Bf-Committers if it would be nice to
have Blender on greenlight, as greenlight was fairly new.
http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2012-November/038007.html
At that time Bf-Gamedev did not exists.
Some time in between Blender Foundation got the Steam funding/money.
There was than some guy who wanted to bring blender to Steam. But after
some weeks no one ever heard of that guy again. (I hope to be more
successful)
At the beginning of the Year I started a similar thread to this one
where I offered to take on that Task. But a bit more humble than this
one and I got pointed to the other guy that wanted to bring Blender to
Steam. So I thought that there is still moving in this and sat back.
http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-gamedev/2014-February/000195.html
6 Month later there were still no movement in that department but this
time I thought to me that I could certainly do this.
And Yes my E-mail address got on some Spammail lists but there is
nothing I can do about that.
The only thing I can provide that I am real are my Social network accounts:
https://www.facebook.com/jeremias.boos
https://twitter.com/Wasabi_2007
https://twitter.com/Wasabi_2007/status/495711589715443712
https://github.com/Wasabi2007/
If you still not convinced what would convince you?
As far as the Technical knowledge goes, i have no idea what is needed
for steam. But what I read about it, it seems fairly easy to publish
anything on Steam.
If there is something I can not figure out by my own I will ask for
help. Like every other person would do that never published anything on
Steam.
There is a first time for anything :)
If I screw up big I have no Problem to take responsibility.
The money thing is I think something that nearly every student has to
face. I have not much money to play with in the month.
I hope I could convince you that I am not a scumbag that want to abuse
and betray the Blender or any other community.
best regards
Jeremias Boos
Am 03.08.2014 00:46, schrieb Dan McGrath:
> Hi,
>
> Just out of curiosity, who are you and why should everyone on Steam
> trust you to distribute binaries to their computers?
>
> So far all I see is some guy that can't afford $100 that came out of
> nowhere, registered a "Blender Foundation" account on Steam prior to
> getting official permission from Ton and started asking the community
> to trust him to do this. Does Ton know your home address, phone
> number, and has seen your face before, or otherwise can vouch that
> Jeremias Boos is even your real name?
>
> A quick Google search shows dozens of *.boos at gmx.de
> <mailto:boos at gmx.de> email addresses, which does raise some red flags.
> Another search of your email address history on lists.blender.org
> <http://lists.blender.org> shows only 7 emails containing your email
> address, 6 of which are this thread.
>
> Assuming you do get Ton's blessing, do you have the technical skills
> necessary to do this? Do you have a "trusted" computer from which to
> actually do the publishing of the software from, or do you only have 1
> computer that might have a history of virus infection from pirated
> software downloads and surfing questionable web sites? Have you even
> been infected by a virus before?
>
> So far, I don't see any reason to support you on this yet. Prove
> otherwise please :)
>
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Jeremias Boos <Jeremias.boos at gmx.de
> <mailto:Jeremias.boos at gmx.de>> wrote:
>
> To give a little update.
>
> I created a Blender Foundation Steam account on a E-mail address
> on my own Server with domain.
> So it should be no Problem to transfer the account to someone else.
>
> I also wrote with Boudwejin Rempt from the Krita Team.
> He said that probably the grates problem with Krita on greenlight
> was the Exposition to get enough up votes to get through
> greenlight. And it would be maybe best if Blender could be sold as
> extra steam version with special steam integration. But I am not
> sure if that is necessary.
>
> I will also write to Steam if there will be any problems with open
> source program's that don't generate Money over the steam store,
> but anything i read about that seems to show no problem at all in
> that direction.
>
> Last thing I am a little concerned about is the greenlight
> starting fee. I don't have exactly that much money to spend. I can
> give something like 40$ but not the full 100$. I thought about to
> setup a little indigogo campaign to get the money together. But
> the minimum campaign is 500$ and I have nothing that I could give
> in return as pledge reward.
> If I would setup a indigogo campaign everything over the needed
> 100$ would go to the Blenderfoundation.
> What are you thoughts about that?
>
> best regards
> Jeremias Boos
>
> Am 25.07.2014 20:47, schrieb Jeremias Boos:
>>
>> Am 25.07.2014 18:06, schrieb brita:
>>> For my personal clarification, what exactly does 'Blender on
>>> Steam' involve?
>>>
>>> I did a small research at the start of my gsoc to see if I could
>>> help with this and what I understood was:
>>> - steam would act as a 'publishing' platform for blender, where
>>> you could actually just download blender. Is this correct? (this
>>> can be done already)
>> Yep that would be the main target, at first. I see Steam as a
>> nice way to bring Blender to more people and have an automated
>> system for updating Blender.
>> Also you have the possibility to make Beta branches. So maybe it
>> would also a good way to deliver nightlys and rcs to a broader
>> audience.
>> Also does Steam support synchronisation to some degree. So it
>> would be possible to have your settings.blend synchronised on all
>> Blenders that are installed over Steam.
>>> - the steam workshop donations, are for *steam workshop* that is
>>> basically an interface for users to share, discover and install
>>> mods for their games. meaning:
>>> - the goal is to support tool integration aiming for game
>>> modding (building assets for games is the most common, but also
>>> levels and and behaviour may be supported). There is already the
>>> FBX work here, for tool integration.
>>> - the games implement a part of the steam workshop api,
>>> specifying what can be modded, what they accept, etc
>>> - the tools (blender!) also implement a part of the API as a
>>> way of exporting. Somewhat like the sketchfab addon, but instead
>>> of uploading to their website, it get uploaded to steam via
>>> their api, saying what it is and how it can be used.
>>> - steam workshop connects these too together making
>>> everything nice for the user
>>>
>> That would be the next step, if someone wants to do it. Maybe
>> this is something that is a valid target for GSOC.
>>> So what are we talking about here? Making an official account?
>>> Getting blender downloadable on steam? Implementing the API to
>>> export content from blender into steam workshop?
>>> Also, please correct me if I understood something wrong.
>>>
>> That is basically the plan. With only the exception that I am not
>> skilled enough with the Blender Python API or Code base to make
>> the Exporter/Importer stuff. So that would be the Task for an
>> other volunteer.
>>> As to the first too options, they are more of a marketing
>>> decision, so I leave it to Ton. The implementation of the api,
>>> as interesting as it could be, is not really game engine related
>>> and therefore out of the scope of my gsoc, so I didn't look further.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Inês Almeida
>>>
>>>
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>> best regards
>> Jeremias Boos
>>
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