[Bf-gamedev] UI; Improvements and Customization

[Jan Albartus]

PPS. with "UIs, like Model & Texture, Animation & Rigging, Compositing & 
FX" you mean something else than the 'Default, 3D View Full, Animation, 
Compositing, Game Logic, Motion Tracking, Scripting, UV Editing and 
Video Editing' screen lay-outs blender already provides using the drop-down?

On 2013-10-08 19:23, Colin Knueppel wrote:
> Thanks PLyczkowski and Brecht,
> And Thanks PLycskowski for the complement on NS2. I'm primarily anim, 
> but I can keep my ear out with Cory, our art director.
>
> For UI,
> I've been trying to be very active in the discussion, and I've been 
> honing what I hope is a persuasive and compassionate argument for UI 
> refinement that can both leave the program intact for existing users 
> as well as improve learnability and customization. I have come to 
> discuss it here as well, due to someone linking this as another way to 
> bring about some change.
>
> http://www.blendernation.com/2013/10/06/developer-meeting-notes-october-6-2013/
> Here is the latest revision of my argument in the comments.
> It has been refined after some discussion with a Blender Institute 
> representative. His concerns were that a lot of the UI discussion was 
> directed at making Blender a clone of other programs. Upon reflection, 
> I don't believe the hotkeys are necessary, and it is kind of 
> disrespectful to ask Blender to just adopt other program keys, when we 
> all struggled to learn Maya, Max and ZBrushes funky keys. I have 
> instead shifted my focus upon a feature I described here before, a 
> prominent task oriented UI loading menu option. Below that, I then 
> describe concerns that I believe should be kept in mind while 
> designing features, or redesigning, in Blender that would probably 
> also address Blender's learning curve for new users.
>
> I don't wish to belabor this too much, but the UI element alone would 
> be a hundred times better than Maya's beloved shelves system, and it 
> would allow studios like Unknown Worlds, perhaps Wolfire Games and 
> other indie studios to pool resources and design friendlier 
> environments for new hires, speed particular tasks or maybe even 
> innovate new features. It takes pressure off the core group about 
> conforming to other programs, too.
>
> As for the second point, I consider usability really a concern that we 
> all should have as we age. The perspectives I put forth are perhaps 
> extreme, but should be considered while designing a program. They are 
> also representative of the many shades of difficulties that exist 
> across the user base of any program. I think we all can identify 
> people in our lives that aren't senile but have difficulty keeping on 
> track, and are especially burdened by disorganization that requires 
> searching. We probably all know people that don't have trouble reading 
> but navigate almost primarily by landmarks. These sort of problems are 
> what I consider the bigger issue to Blender's usability.
>
> These two items would make great strides towards addressing core 
> difficulties of learning Blender.
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Brecht Van Lommel 
> <brechtvanlommel at pandora.be <mailto:brechtvanlommel at pandora.be>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Pawe? ?yczkowski
>     <pawellyczkowski at gmail.com <mailto:pawellyczkowski at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         @Colin @Aubrey
>
>         Hey
>
>         An UI refresh is planned for the 2.7x series, and the
>         commutity has been very active recently in proposing what the
>         refresh could consist of (you can see the biggest thread about
>         it here -
>         http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?298932-Blender-UI-Mockups-and-Ideas-Requested).
>
>
>     To be clear, there is a lot of activity around this topic from
>     users, but as far as I know, no developers have announced any big
>     plans to refresh the UI.
>
>     Ton mentioned something about refreshing the default settings in
>     the roadmap, but that's not the same thing.
>     http://code.blender.org/index.php/2013/06/blender-roadmap-2-7-2-8-and-beyond/
>
>     Maybe with all the activity there is a good change that developers
>     will get interested in working on this topic, but I wouldn't say
>     that it is actually planned yet.
>
>     Brecht.
>
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