[Bf-funboard] text effect could use a font change setting
Fischer Lord
lordfischer11 at gmail.com
Sat Feb 13 16:03:53 CET 2016
Thanks for all the discussion, especially Julian. That's interesting that
it's so complex to load a font. Everyone's right-- blender is the best free
VSE out there (like After effects and premiere combined) I am glad, as an
editor, that the everyone has been giving more attention to it recently.
Thanks,
Fischer
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> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:20:47 +0100
> From: maximo remedios <maximoremedios at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Bf-funboard] Text Effect could use a font change
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> Hi Julian,
>
> When you say: " We shouldn't go further with current sequencer though",
> does this mean that you guys are considering a total rewrite of the VSE?
> I was surprised to see on twitter that some at the Blender foundation were
> not editing on the VSE but rather using another application.
>
> Cheers
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> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Julian Eisel <eiseljulian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > This would be pretty basic functionality that seems okay to have. We
> > shouldn't go further with current sequencer though, new functionality
> > should be kept basic with small maintenance needs.
> >
> > First I thought it was easy enough to go to quick hack list for newer
> > developers to pick up. After deeper investigation I figured it isn't
> > as easy as it sounds though (tm) :S Also talked to Campbell about it,
> > who said the same:
> > Main problem we have is that our font handling isn't designed for
> > cases where multiple type faces need to be loaded and drawn
> > frequently. It's more like - load a font, keep it in memory and draw
> > the interface with it until user selects a different font.
> > For font previews in file browser we just load the individual fonts,
> > draw them once and store the resulting images. The stored images are
> > small and few enough that they don't take up much memory.
> > Text objects use a special way to read their fonts which is designed
> > pretty specialized for generating text objects based on curves (See
> > VFont struct).
> >
> > We'd basically need a way to do this more efficiently for such
> > use-cases as the one you suggest. This is totally doable, but it would
> > take some days at least (and should be done carefully).
> > So long story short, it's doable, but not really straightforward. If
> > anyone is willing to try it, your welcome of course.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > - Julian -
> >
> > On 10 February 2016 at 00:47, Fischer Lord <lordfischer11 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi all.
> > > This is my first post here, and it's a small little feature request
> > > regarding the text effect inside of the Video Sequence Editor. So I was
> > > editing a quick video, went to add some text, with the awesome new text
> > > effect, and was slightly annoyed to find I couldn't change the font of
> > the
> > > text in it. Could someone (developer...) add that in please?
> > > Version: 2.76b
> > > OS: Windows10Pro
> > > Thanks!
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> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:31:08 +0100
> From: Knapp <magick.crow at gmail.com>
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> setting...
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> I think that Blender VSE suffers from being a backburner project for most
> of the life of Blender. It is only in the last few years that the devs have
> started to wake up to the fact that the Blender VSE might be the most
> powerful VSE on the market including really huge products.
>
> At the same time it has crazy weaknesses like adding text used to mean
> doing the next on the 3d animation side and then importing it into the VSE
> side. This is way too complex for someone that just wants to do basic film
> editing. Now we have a VSE text tool this has changed but you can't for
> example change the font of it at will without a fuss. So ya, it is
> currently a very strong VSE but has long time rep as being weak.
>
> Think of the power that the VSE now has! It is a good VSE and does not
> crash. It has a nodal compositor and a motion tracking system plus the 3d
> side with animation. Where else can you do all that?
>
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 10:20 AM, maximo remedios <
> maximoremedios at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Julian,
> >
> > When you say: " We shouldn't go further with current sequencer though",
> > does this mean that you guys are considering a total rewrite of the VSE?
> > I was surprised to see on twitter that some at the Blender foundation
> were
> > not editing on the VSE but rather using another application.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast.
> > www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email>
> > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Julian Eisel <eiseljulian at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > This would be pretty basic functionality that seems okay to have. We
> > > shouldn't go further with current sequencer though, new functionality
> > > should be kept basic with small maintenance needs.
> > >
> > > First I thought it was easy enough to go to quick hack list for newer
> > > developers to pick up. After deeper investigation I figured it isn't
> > > as easy as it sounds though (tm) :S Also talked to Campbell about it,
> > > who said the same:
> > > Main problem we have is that our font handling isn't designed for
> > > cases where multiple type faces need to be loaded and drawn
> > > frequently. It's more like - load a font, keep it in memory and draw
> > > the interface with it until user selects a different font.
> > > For font previews in file browser we just load the individual fonts,
> > > draw them once and store the resulting images. The stored images are
> > > small and few enough that they don't take up much memory.
> > > Text objects use a special way to read their fonts which is designed
> > > pretty specialized for generating text objects based on curves (See
> > > VFont struct).
> > >
> > > We'd basically need a way to do this more efficiently for such
> > > use-cases as the one you suggest. This is totally doable, but it would
> > > take some days at least (and should be done carefully).
> > > So long story short, it's doable, but not really straightforward. If
> > > anyone is willing to try it, your welcome of course.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > - Julian -
> > >
> > > On 10 February 2016 at 00:47, Fischer Lord <lordfischer11 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi all.
> > > > This is my first post here, and it's a small little feature request
> > > > regarding the text effect inside of the Video Sequence Editor. So I
> was
> > > > editing a quick video, went to add some text, with the awesome new
> text
> > > > effect, and was slightly annoyed to find I couldn't change the font
> of
> > > the
> > > > text in it. Could someone (developer...) add that in please?
> > > > Version: 2.76b
> > > > OS: Windows10Pro
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Bf-funboard mailing list
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> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:12:13 +0700
> From: ?????? ??????????? <akhilman at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Bf-funboard] Text Effect could use a font change
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> Actualy titling, color correction and sound mixing more important for
> day to day video editing.
>
>
> On 13/02/16 16:31, Knapp wrote:
> > Think of the power that the VSE now has! It is a good VSE and does not
> > crash. It has a nodal compositor and a motion tracking system plus the 3d
> > side with animation. Where else can you do all that?
>
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> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 11:28:59 +0100
> From: Knapp <magick.crow at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Bf-funboard] Text Effect could use a font change
> setting...
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> And you can do it. I admit that the sound side is rather lacking but it
> does do 3d sound positioning.
>
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 11:12 AM, ?????? ??????????? <akhilman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Actualy titling, color correction and sound mixing more important for
> > day to day video editing.
> >
> >
> > On 13/02/16 16:31, Knapp wrote:
> > > Think of the power that the VSE now has! It is a good VSE and does not
> > > crash. It has a nodal compositor and a motion tracking system plus the
> 3d
> > > side with animation. Where else can you do all that?
> >
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