[Bf-docboard] getting started on w7?

Wed Jan 14 00:09:43 CET 2015

Hi Campbell, thank you for the response. I am relieved that I haven't
annoyed you. (I took some time before pressing SEND)

I was told that many of the issues had been discussed and decisions made,
...and then I guess they were burnt onto a write once never read memory and
locked away in a vault never to be read again.

Do you know who knows what's going on? Does anyone know?

On 13 January 2015 at 23:52, Campbell Barton <ideasman42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Abuelo S. B. Chdancer
> <playadance at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I live in hope, but....
> >
> > I have just watched the video,  http://www.blender.org/documentation/
> given
> > by Francesco Siddi and Cambell Barton. supposedly about documentation.
> >
> > It was about technology to enable documentation, not about documentation.
> >
> > There was a small piece near the end where the documentation process was
> > mentioned, but mostly in a way that said... "er we have no idea, that's
> not
> > our area."
> >
> > At the end one guy in the audience asked what I believe was a practical
> > non-tech questions, "How do I get involved and maybe write a couple of
> pages
> > about a topic I know?"
> >
> > The presenters responded with more tech because they were giving a
> > presentation about technology, not a presentation about documentation.
> >
> > The reply should have been.....
> >
> > Contact this person by ..email, register at this address... state what
> > specific topic you think you can help on... you can write it in an email
> or
> > whatever wordprocessor you like and then upload it on this webpage-
> Please
> > contact the person responsible for that section of the manual - the list
> is
> > on the webpage where you can upload the text.
> >
> > Or something to that effect.
> >
> >
> > Another member of the audience stated the obvious - there has to be a
> style
> > guide.
> >
> >
> >
> > You guys have 'ported' (I would say 'copied') the old wiki into a new
> wiki -
> > but the old wiki wasn't designed to work.
> >
> > What you have is a technically slick, probably wonderfully engineered
> pigs
> > ear.
> >
> >
> > I really, really don't want to annoy anyone saying this. I would like to
> see
> > a good manual. Manuals are hard to create. Explaining in simple prose to
> > someone who doesn't have a clue what you know is even harder.
> >
> > The answer is not very tecky. It is social and literary. It requires
> social
> > organization.
> >
> > The tech part is an extremely easy input system (no downloads, no IRC, no
> > archived cryptic stuff).
> > It requires a webpage that says how to register, a simple checklist or
> > dialogue box to state what you feel capable of writing about and an email
> > response from someone saying,
> > "Glad to have you on board, here's our style sheet and standard layout,
> send
> > me your first draft whenever you can"
> >
> > I live in hope....
>
> It seems you sum up the situation quite well, as a first step we moved
> to a new technology with old (problematic) content,
> Francesco and myself are not are more technically focused (not so much
> writers),
>
> The reason we didnt hand out an email address is that nobody has that
> position (as far as I know).
> If a project is community run, you need people in the community to
> fill positions - that includes helping others get involved.
>
> > On 13 January 2015 at 20:29, Greg Zaal <gregzzmail at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Marco,
> >>
> >> I've just updated the Windows install instructions here:
> >> http://blender.org/manual/about/install/windows.html
> >>
> >> Let me know if you have any issues following that :)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Greg
> >>
> >> On 13 January 2015 at 19:35, marco ardito <ardito at apiform.to.it> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> trying to get manual source on my win7x64sp1 work pc...
> >>> after installing svn, and ckecked out trunk, then
> >>> get python 1.7 with msi installer.... now?
> >>>
> >>> http://www.blender.org/documentation/get-started page says:
> >>>
> >>> "Make sure you have Python 2.7 installed and get the virtualenv tool:
> pip
> >>> install virtualenv"
> >>>
> >>> well I have Python 2.7 installed now, but where should I type "pip
> >>> install virtualenv" ?
> >>> at the command line... (ie for me d:\python27) "pip install virtualenv"
> >>> is not working...
> >>>
> >>> help please...
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Marco
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