[Bf-docboard] less graphics
Alex Heizer
bf-docboard@blender.org
Thu, 02 Jan 2003 18:18:24 -0600
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Hey Bart,
Bart Veldhuizen wrote:
>On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 20:58, Alex Heizer wrote:
>
>>The thing I was concerned about was more about establishing a few
>>standards before everyone makes their 20 million screenshots and
>>renders. In the last PDF I downloaded from the sources, there were
>>already around 70 images, and most of the pages don't have their
>>images yet. Once the standards are set, you can make whatever format
>>you want. It's a lot easier to make a 5k PNG from a 10MB EPS than the
>>other way around, so you make printable images the default, then scale
>>and compress a version from that for Web or a PDF.
>>
>
>You're absolutely right. I'm not sure yet on how to proceed with that.
>Do you think that a combination between Stefano's styleguide and your
>remarks earlier would be enough for the time being?
>
That sounds great. I'll go through Stefano's styleguide and come up with
some image specs, and give them to him.
>>But this is the stage we need to be worrying about the graphics, so
>>that people will only have to do something once. Rather than have the
>>images generated on the fly from a .blend file, it may be easier in
>>the long run to have someone do all the graphics work, making the
>>images, since I'm not sure you can automate cropping to make it look
>>good 100% of the time. Having someone spending a little extra time in
>>the beginning could save a lot of time and effort if it ever does get
>>to be more than just on a Website (meaning PDF or print).
>>
>
>Hrms... Well, I liked the idea but I fear that you may be right..
>Anyway, the same argument would apply here: let's get the content right
>first and then worry about a fancy .blend->image generator. (I hate it
>when I use my own arguments against me ;-)
>
To be honest, I thought it was a pretty kewl idea to have the renders
and screenshots autogenerated. It would be great to see someone get that
to work, not being a coder myself. I love that kind of stuff. The only
two things I'd worry about were making sure it could produce the
necessary formats and sizes, and 2, how easy it would be to change the
parameters. One of the good things about something like you had proposed
is that if you decide that the standard size for Webpage images is
300x200 and later change it to 250x100, you could change it once and set
it to rerender everything again from the top. :)
After we get the image standards set up, I'll go through whatever images
I can and make sure they are as good as can be. I'll also make a
standing offer to do print-size renders of anyone's .blends that will
end up in the documentation, and make versions of them in the new
standard sizes and graphics formats.
Alex
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Hey Bart,<br>
<br>
Bart Veldhuizen wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 20:58, Alex Heizer wrote:<br><br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">The thing I was concerned about was more about establishing a few<br>standards before everyone makes their 20 million screenshots and<br>renders. In the last PDF I downloaded from the sources, there were<br>already around 70 images, and most of the pages don't have their<br>images yet. Once the standards are set, you can make whatever format<br>you want. It's a lot easier to make a 5k PNG from a 10MB EPS than the<br>other way around, so you make printable images the default, then scale<br>and compress a version from that for Web or a PDF.<br></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!----><br>You're absolutely right. I'm not sure yet on how to proceed with that.<br>Do you think that a combination between Stefano's styleguide and your<br>remarks earlier would be enough for the time being? </pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
That sounds great. I'll go through Stefano's styleguide and come up with
some image specs, and give them to him.<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:1041538970.2587.37.camel@ferro">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">But this is the stage we need to be worrying about the graphics, so<br>that people will only have to do something once. Rather than have the<br>images generated on the fly from a .blend file, it may be easier in<br>the long run to have someone do all the graphics work, making the<br>images, since I'm not sure you can automate cropping to make it look<br>good 100% of the time. Having someone spending a little extra time in<br>the beginning could save a lot of time and effort if it ever does get<br>to be more than just on a Website (meaning PDF or print).<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!----><br>Hrms... Well, I liked the idea but I fear that you may be right..<br>Anyway, the same argument would apply here: let's get the content right<br>first and then worry about a fancy .blend->image generator. (I hate it<br>when I use my own arguments against me ;-)</pre>
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To be honest, I thought it was a pretty kewl idea to have the renders and
screenshots autogenerated. It would be great to see someone get that to work,
not being a coder myself. I love that kind of stuff. The only two things
I'd worry about were making sure it could produce the necessary formats and
sizes, and 2, how easy it would be to change the parameters. One of the good
things about something like you had proposed is that if you decide that the
standard size for Webpage images is 300x200 and later change it to 250x100,
you could change it once and set it to rerender everything again from the
top. :)<br>
<br>
After we get the image standards set up, I'll go through whatever images
I can and make sure they are as good as can be. I'll also make a standing
offer to do print-size renders of anyone's .blends that will end up in the
documentation, and make versions of them in the new standard sizes and graphics
formats.<br>
<br>
Alex<br>
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