[Bf-funboard] Loading Screen for Blender

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Firefox starts slower then Blender, but FF has no splash screen.
In my opinion splash screens bother to do something else while
application fires up.

On Wed, 2016-05-11 at 09:09 -0300, Diego Gangl wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Blender loads pretty fast for me on factory settings, but once you
> start piling addons it takes longer and longer. As addons become
> larger, startup (registration) times will increase too.
> 
> I don't know if there's much Blender devs can do to improve this,
> since it's third party code.
> 
> Maybe it would be useful to have a splash screen that only shows up
> after X seconds of loading. It could be just the Blender logo and a
> text like "Loading addons..." so the user gets a hint.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 
> 2016-05-11 5:14 GMT-03:00 Matjaz Lamut <matjaz.lamut at gmail.com>:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I am one of those with less capable machines :) my laptop is in its
> > 6th
> > year (i3 380m, mobility radeon5650, 4gb ram, hdd, win 10). On first
> > start,
> > it takes 3s for the console to appear and 9s for Blender to load
> > completely. On further starts it's 3s or less to load. For my use
> > case, the
> > splash would show in a meaningful way for the first run of Blender
> > for the
> > day.
> > 
> > Also, as David Jeske says, with SSDs the problem is slowly going
> > away on
> > its own.
> > 
> > Then there is the still unanswered question of what benefit this
> > brings to
> > the user. I understand it can be an annoying question, but User
> > Interface
> > is all about the user and his/her needs. Any addition should
> > satisfy a real
> > need, otherwise it's not needed. The question helps to explore and
> > identify
> > those needs. For example, it was a good idea to ask for benchmarks,
> > we went
> > from "Blender loads fast enough for me" to "Blender loads in this
> > many
> > seconds".
> > 
> > Matjaž
> > 
> > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:54 AM, David Jeske <davidj at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 5:16 PM, gandalf3 <zzyxpaw at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On my slightly-beefy linux machine it takes 9 seconds if I
> > > > haven't
> > > > started blender in a while, and a little under 1.5 seconds
> > > > otherwise.
> > > > (counting from launch to until blender is fully usable).
> > > > 
> > > I can't speak for blender foundation, but to me 9-15 seconds on a
> > > HDD seems
> > > like a long enough time to justify either speeding up startup or
> > > making a
> > > clean loading splash, if someone wants to do the work. That said,
> > > the world
> > > is moving to SSD, so this problem is slowly but steadily
> > > disappearing on
> > > its own.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > It's worth noting that on the first run in a while, there is
> > > > usually a
> > > > long delay filled with disk activity before the splash screen
> > > > of either
> > > > gimp or audacity even appears. I imagine this is similar to the
> > > > 7.5
> > > > second delay blender sometimes experiences.
> > > > 
> > > > This makes me wonder if the delay caused by slow IO operations
> > > > is even
> > > > practically progress-bar-able. Chances are it'd end up being
> > > > one of
> > > > those progress bars that doesn't move for 10 seconds then jumps
> > > > to
> > > > complete all at once..
> > > > 
> > > It takes some time for the OS to load the EXE, load the DLLs, and
> > > run their
> > > inits before any code is going to run. It would surprise me if
> > > this was
> > > 7.5s even on an HDD, but I suppose it depends on how much the
> > > DLLs do
> > > during their init. One way to get around this is with a separate
> > > lightweight tiny "splash launcher" which has no dependencies and
> > > just puts
> > > up a splash before launching the real app -- but IMO effort like
> > > this would
> > > be better spent making startup faster.
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