[Bf-funboard] Button Panels

[Ton Roosendaal]

Hi,

I certainly want a smart 'glueing' or grid (or table) system to assist  
configuring a lay-out. Once you're satisfied with a layout, it  
shouldn't bother you anymore.

Configuration overkill is not what we need!

I think all your concerns below are mine too... the design doc gives  
some directions for the coding work, but not all answers yet.

At first I also thought of defining a fixed width/height of panels, to  
allow maximum freedom for any window aspect ratio. Going over all our  
buttons, I'm afraid that restriction will force again UI design into  
ugly solutions, where panels break up in two, or have lots of emtpy  
space.

Maybe it's time to get a quick prototype for it out, then people can  
play with it.

BTW: You can also help by giving solutions, and not so many questions!  
If you've got time, make some mockups or drawings for how you think we  
can work best.

-Ton-



On Friday, Sep 26, 2003, at 14:24 Europe/Amsterdam, Thorsten Wilms  
wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I think it is the right direction to organize the stuff in the buttons
> window in small blocks.
>
> But what is the point about panels that can be freely moved around
> inside a buttons window?
> - If the user drags a panel above another one, you will have to move
> the second one to the origin of the dragged one (just like reorganizing
> slides in a presentation programm). Not all that free movement and a  
> lot
> of work for good feedback and always consistent graphics.
> - There is no point in leaving some random space between panels. They
> should always go next to each other.
> - Panels require extra space for beeing manipulateable
> - The only reason for reorganizing panels should be adaption to the  
> size
> and ratio of the buttons window. The sequence of the panels itself  
> should
> be logical enough that nobody would feel the need to change it.
> And this adaption to more vertical or more horizontal layout would be
> best handled by the app itself.
>
> The panels could be handled like text with something like a linewrap.
>
> Or there could be a set of at least to layouts for switching to the
> most appropiate automagicaly.
>
>
> Things I realy don't understand:
> Why are the panels supposed to have fixed width, bit variable height?
> Why should they be gluable together only vertical?
>
> And how come you think that making a horizontal layout harder is o.k.?
> I like my buttons horizontaly at the bottom of the screen. It just  
> works!
>
>
> I will be glad to hear of benefits of the panels like described by the
> redesign doc that I do not think of. But right now I fear it's
> configurability overkill.
>
>
> ---
> Thorsten
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