[Bf-docboard] 2.5 Wiki Changes

mindrones mindrones at gmail.com
Mon Jun 13 09:37:11 CEST 2011


Hi Jared,

I think it's ok if you keep working in the sandbox and when you think
you are done you add some little text below each chapter to explain what
you have done and why.

For example roght now the 2.5 manual has materials and textures after
rigging and the animation. That's disputable. IMO usually people start
with static scenes, adding materials (colors, you know :) and after some
expertise they start to rig and add constraints etc.
I have to admit that I've been thinking at that approach many times, but
I'm convinced that this kind of changes have to be discussed here.

If you want to merge pages or write new ones, again make new pages in
the sandbox.

Bastien has done the same months ago and though it's been hard, it has
given its fruits and now the manual is more mature than before, at least
in my opinion.

If we really let the manual open for such changes, then go figure if
suddenly a "Jared2" comes and start to change all your changes again,
what would you think?

Probably you would say, hey let's discuss first! :)

Laters,
Luca





On 06/13/2011 06:54 AM, Jared Reisweber wrote:
> Okay. Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. I got a little excited. I'll
> copy over the current state of the manual to Meta:Sandbox, then revert
> the manual back to look like the Doc:Manual/earlier Doc:2.5/Manual index.
> 
> The sandbox link is:
> http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Sandbox/Doc:2.5/Manual_Proposal
> 
> The 2.5 index had considerable differences from the 2.4 index already
> when I started, so its hard to judge what I should put back and
> add/remove. I changed it back a little bit. Do you want me to straight
> up just revert it back to the version before I messed with it, or make
> it look like the 2.4 index? Bleh, now I'm really confused. heh.
> 
> Some of the changes I made were necessary, as many topics were missing
> completely, and many 2.5 features are very different from their 2.4
> counterparts, such as the animation system.
> 
> Other changes were made to consolidate very short pages together. Also,
> some features from 2.4 were rearranged in 2.5's interface, lending
> themselves to be grouped differently in the manual. For example,
> consider the Output Panel, and the Format Panel in 2.4's render
> settings. These have changed considerably in 2.5, as far as
> organization. The manual should reflect this new grouping and workflow,
> which why many of my changes seemed logical.
> 
> The pages are still there for the most part, they just have been grouped
> a little differently, and some have been added. It probably looks more
> changed than it actually is. Most of the changes have more to do with
> the usability of manual itself than the changes to Blender in 2.5, in my
> opinion.
> 
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:22 PM, mindrones <mindrones at gmail.com
> <mailto:mindrones at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hey Jared,
> 
>     I've been looking with more attention at the 2.5 manual index and WOW..
>     I have to say that you are making it diverging quite a lot from the
>     official manual index...
> 
>     As stated in the orange banner up there, the idea is to update the
>     official manual pages for 2.5 changes, while what you are doing is too
>     much drastic in my opinion.
> 
>     Personally I'd prefer you to revert your changes in Doc:2.5/Manual and
>     prepare a sandbox page where you propose these structural changes here,
>     so that everybody can discuss. Otherwise crosslinking will be impossible
>     and really it will be very hard to compare the changes against 2.4
>     manual.
> 
>     I don't really think blender 2.5 is so much different from 2.4 to
>     justify all these structural changes in the manual.
> 
> 
>     Regards,
>     Luca
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Regards,
Luca

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