[Bf-docboard] less graphics

G@l Buki bf-docboard@blender.org
Wed, 01 Jan 2003 19:07:13 +0100


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Sounds great!

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Subject: Re: [Bf-docboard] less graphics
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:06:43 -0600
From: Alex Heizer <alex@synchcorp.com>
Reply-To: bf-docboard@blender.org
To: bf-docboard@blender.org
References: <1041323262.993.1.camel@ferro> 
<16556.1041338716@www35.gmx.net> <3E11D06C.2000002@torus.ch>

> 
> 
> G@l Buki wrote:
> 
>> Great!
>> One big graphic, why not.
>> But don't scale it down rather cut it to the disered size.
>>
>> I think dpi are just relevant if you print something. On the computer 
>> the only thing that matters are the pixels.
>> Or did I missunderstand something?
> 
> 
> 
> These are the kinds of things that need to be determined about the 
> graphics, which is kind of what I was talking about in a previous post 
> about standards. For print, the best graphic would need to be a 300dpi 
> CMYK EPS, while on the Web it is a 72dpi RGB bitmap, like a JPG, PNG or 
> GIF. On the computer screen, it really does only matter the exact number 
> of pixels, but if you plan to have this really published at some point 
> to paper, you'll need a 300dpi EPS. The best time to determine the size 
> and format of the graphics for the whole documentation project is before 
> all of the screenshots get made, so nobody has to go and redo them when 
> the thing goes to press.
> 
> Matt Ebb and I volunteer to work on this, if that's what everyone wants. 
> I just know from working with both print and Web that you need to take 
> different things into account for each as far as graphics are concerned. 
> What I propose, would be something along the lines of this:
> 
> 1. A set of graphics standards would be set up. This would include 
> conventions for size and content, i.e.: 300x200 pixel JPG at 50% 
> compression for the Web-based and other online documentation; 300x200 
> pixel JPG at 90% compression for a high-res PDF; and  2"x1.5" 300dpi 
> CMYK EPS for the print version. The image would contain only the 3D pane 
> for examples, or the button pane for settings.
> 2. Any screenshots would be done as large as possible, and any 
> renderings would be done to take into account finished output size, for 
> example, 1200x1200 for an image that would go on the printed page at a 
> finished size of 4"x4".
> 3. Someone (an individual or team of individuals) would collect the 
> images, process them according to the standards, and output them in two 
> or three versions with identical content, one for Web, one for print, 
> and one for a high-res PDF. These images would then be returned to the 
> source tree for inclusion in their respective products.
> 4. Someone (an individual or team of individuals) would come up with a 
> cool, professional design that would showcase blender as a great program 
> that talented people do and should use and be a part of. Since print 
> design is different than Web design, that someone could create a couple 
> of slightly different, but complementary designs that make blender look 
> cool and professional whichever version you're looking at.
> 5. The someone's in points 3 and 4 would coordinate the design and 
> content to make sure it all looks consistent. This could also free up 
> authors to not worry about style and focus on content, since the 
> designers could ensure everything's formatted correctly and maintain one 
> copy.
> 
>  From what I understand, we can do a nice design once for the docbook, 
> which can then be output in different formats, like for a Website or a 
> plaintext version or for print. In which case, we should be able to set 
> up output templates so that when the online version is output it uses 
> the lo-res bitmaps, and when the printed version is output it will use 
> the high-res EPSes.
> 
> What do people think? The details would be worked out if that's what 
> everyone wants. I just gave some examples that illustrated what I was 
> talking about, so I'm not concerned at this point that the printed image 
> be 4"x4", or whatever. I can get with Matt and anyone else who is 
> interested and work out a draft and bring it back to the group. Does 
> anyone think this is a great idea? A waste of time? Does anyone else 
> want to work on it, maybe someone really familiar with xml or docbooks?
> 
> Alex
> 
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [Bf-docboard] less graphics
>> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:45:16 +0100 (MET)
>> From: Florian Findeiss <droddl@gmx.de>
>> Reply-To: bf-docboard@blender.org
>> To: bf-docboard@blender.org
>> References: <1041323262.993.1.camel@ferro>
>>
>>>> Hi Gal,
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 03:24, G@l Buki wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> there where some discussions about the size of the manual. I have 
>>>>> two suggestions:
>>>>>
>>>>> Why are the graphics in chapter 5 basic objects all with the 
>>>>> interface?
>>>>> They would be smaller without it.
>>>>>
>>>>> And why publishing of every mesh an example in editmode?
>>>>> One example should be enough.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree. Having 1 small image of the basic object in shaded mode,
>>>> without the user interface present, would do the trick. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will do that, as soon as I have time. Is it okay then to have 1 pic in
>>> shaded mode 640x480? Which dpi should I use. I make the screenshots on a
>>> 1024x768 desktop resolution!
>>>
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