[Bf-committers] Python 2.6

Wed May 6 02:36:03 CEST 2009

Thanks for the update, and all of the good info,  Campbell. I know that py3k
isn't backward compatible with py2.x but was thinking if all systems could
be made to support 2.6 by default it would simplify the issues with scripts
in the future.. which I just realized is pretty pointless since the api is
changing for blender2.5 anyway.. hmm seems OSX has been causing some
problems lately.

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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 10:23:59 -0700
> From: Tyler Tricker <tntricker at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Bf-committers] Python 2.6 _future_
> To: bf-committers at blender.org
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> - Campbell proposes to bundle 2.49 officially with Python 2.6 (except
> osx)
> Is there a goal to get the scripts ready for py3k, or is that going to be a
> later project?
> Also what is holding back py2.6 for osx?
>
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> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 11:02:13 +0200
> > From: Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org>
> > Subject: [Bf-committers] Meeting minutes, sunday may 3 2009
> > To: bf-committers at blender.org
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> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> > *** 2.49 RC:
> >
> > - Several bugs in GE code were tackled, but GE bugs in RC1 prevented
> > good testing.
> > - We still need more regression test files, mail links to this list, I
> > will gather and publish
> > - Both Benoit and Erwin will do some work still, and would prefer a RC2
> > build
> > - Campbell proposes to bundle 2.49 officially with Python 2.6 (except
> > osx)
> >
> > Meeting agreed on calling for a 2.49 RC2 this thursday. We'll further
> > evaluate status of this build next sunday.
> > Everyone's of course invited to help emptying the bug tracker! :)
> >
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 19:40:43 +0200
> From: Jochen Schmitt <Jochen at herr-schmitt.de>
> Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Python 2.6 _future_
> To: bf-blender developers <bf-committers at blender.org>
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> Tyler Tricker schrieb:
> > Is there a goal to get the scripts ready for py3k, or is that going to be
> a
> > later project?
> >
> >
> On the Fedora project, we plan to migrate to py3k, so there is an important
> requirement to migrate blender for py2k, because we don't want to support
> compat package for older python releases.
>
> Best Regards:
>
> Jochen Schmitt
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 10:48:22 -0700
> From: Dustin Martin <dustin at 54.org>
> Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Python 2.6 _future_
> To: bf-blender developers <bf-committers at blender.org>
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> Hey there,
> There would have to be two of every script in order to support Python 3k
> because it breaks backwards compatibility, which is a bit of maintenance.
>  OSX at this time does not have an official apple build of Py3k which is
> why
> it probably wasn't suggested at this time.  There are differences between
> the OS supplied python and the one you can get off python.org for OSX.
>
> - Dustin
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Jochen Schmitt <Jochen at herr-schmitt.de
> >wrote:
>
> > Tyler Tricker schrieb:
> > > Is there a goal to get the scripts ready for py3k, or is that going to
> be
> > a
> > > later project?
> > >
> > >
> > On the Fedora project, we plan to migrate to py3k, so there is an
> important
> > requirement to migrate blender for py2k, because we don't want to support
> > compat package for older python releases.
> >
> > Best Regards:
> >
> > Jochen Schmitt
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 20:28:45 +0200
> From: Philipp Oeser <philippoeser at web.de>
> Subject: [Bf-committers] easy 2.49 python todo's
> To: bf-committers at blender.org
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> this is in response to Campells TODOs here:
> http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2009-May/023322.html
>
> just to let you know I am working on this (still some scripts to check...)
> I've submitted a patch here:
>
> https://projects.blender.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=18695&group_id=9&atid=127
>
> it is the first part of
> ***Replace python errors with useful messages***
> ***Without python installed, go through all the menu's and run each
> script.***
>
> the patch fixes errors in the following menu entries (and replaces them
> with a PupMenu telling "This script requires a
> full python installation")
>
> File
> ---------------------
> > Export
>        3ds_export
>        export_dxf
>        export_fbx
>        DirectX8Exporter
>        lightwave_export
>
>
> Add
> ---------------------
> > Mesh
>        Torus
>
>
> Help
> -------------------
> help_bpy_api
> help_getting_started
> help_manual
> help_release_notes
> help_tutorials
> > Websites
>        help_web_blender
>        help_web_eshop
>        help_web_devcomm
>        help_web_usercomm
>
>
>
> will continue work on this tomorrow...
> Greetz
> Philipp
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:13:45 -0700
> From: Campbell Barton <ideasman42 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Python 2.6 _future_
> To: bf-blender developers <bf-committers at blender.org>
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> The only reason to release windows and linux with py2.6 is because
> linux and windows users now often have python2.6 on their system,
> ubuntu 8.10 has 2.6 by default for eg.
>
> we plan is to keep blender 2.4x using python 2.x, and blender2.5 can
> move to python 3.x (dropping support for py2.x and all blender 2.4x
> scripts)
> Unless python3 proves to be really bad this is probably what will happen.
> We can migrate scripts over a number of blender2.5x releases.
>
> blender2.4x with python 3.x is possible but I doubt it would ever be
> in an official release since it would break scripts 2.4x comes with,
> updating scripts probably wouldn't be so hard but Id rather not waist
> time on this.
>
> for people not following blender 2.5 development, python3 is currently
> supported, using defines to keep it building with py2 until we solve
> the problem of bundling python with blender on OS's.
>
> >From 2.4x we will need to move the game engine to python3 (GameLogic,
> Rasterizer, Mathutils, BGL, Geometry) I have made a start on this and
> it should not be hard to finish - mostly search/replace.
>
> - Campbell
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Dustin Martin <dustin at 54.org> wrote:
> > Hey there,
> > There would have to be two of every script in order to support Python 3k
> > because it breaks backwards compatibility, which is a bit of maintenance.
> > ?OSX at this time does not have an official apple build of Py3k which is
> why
> > it probably wasn't suggested at this time. ?There are differences between
> > the OS supplied python and the one you can get off python.org for OSX.
> >
> > - Dustin
> >
> > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Jochen Schmitt <Jochen at herr-schmitt.de
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Tyler Tricker schrieb:
> >> > Is there a goal to get the scripts ready for py3k, or is that going to
> be
> >> a
> >> > later project?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> On the Fedora project, we plan to migrate to py3k, so there is an
> important
> >> requirement to migrate blender for py2k, because we don't want to
> support
> >> compat package for older python releases.
> >>
> >> Best Regards:
> >>
> >> Jochen Schmitt
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Bf-committers mailing list
> >> Bf-committers at blender.org
> >> http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
> >>
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>
>
>
> --
> - Campbell
>
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