AW: AW: [Uni-verse] Review and demo URGENT

Marcus Hoffmann Marcus.Hoffmann at igd.fraunhofer.de
Tue Apr 18 10:06:23 CEST 2006


Hi,

The renderer can show textures. That was fine for use right now. But I try
to include more material functionality as fast as possible, latest until the
review. I have not seen the model that is planned to use for the demo. If it
would be available I could test, if it is running.

Best Regards
Marcus

Marcus Hoffmann
Dipl. Ing. für Medientechnologie
Abt. Echtzeitlösungen für Simulation und Visual Analytics
Fraunhofer Institut für Graphische Datenverarbeitung
Phone: +49 (0)6151 155 - 639
Mail: marcus.hoffmann at igd.fraunhofer.de

 

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Gert Svensson [mailto:gert at pdc.kth.se] 
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. April 2006 09:52
> An: Marcus Hoffmann
> Betreff: Re: AW: [Uni-verse] Review and demo URGENT
> 
> Dear Marcus,
> 
> great that you have time!
> 
> Could please you comment on the current colour and material 
> support in the OSGrenderer.
> Please send your comments to the list.
> 
> Best Regards
> Gert
> 
> Marcus Hoffmann wrote:
> 
> >The time is ok for me.
> >I have all tools available. So I'm free to use all of them.
> >
> >Best Regards
> >Marcus
> >
> >
> >Marcus Hoffmann
> >Dipl. Ing. for Mediatechnology
> >Dep. Realtime Solutions for Simulation and Visual Analytics 
> Fraunhofer 
> >Institut für Graphische Datenverarbeitung
> >Phone: +49 (0)6151 155 - 639
> >Mail: marcus.hoffmann at igd.fraunhofer.de
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >>Von: uni-verse-bounces at projects.blender.org
> >>[mailto:uni-verse-bounces at projects.blender.org] Im Auftrag von Gert 
> >>Svensson
> >>Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. April 2006 08:33
> >>An: Gert Svensson
> >>Cc: consortium mailing list
> >>Betreff: Re: [Uni-verse] Review and demo URGENT
> >>
> >>I would suggest to have telephone/computer conference at 
> 1500 today to 
> >>follow up on the situation for all involved partners:
> >>KTH: Emil, Slas, Gert. II: Ludde, Martin HUT: Samuel
> >>FHG: Marcus. MinusPlus: Akos.
> >>
> >>Is this possible?
> >>
> >>What kind of media is preferred? Normal phone,  Skype, IRC, 
> Marratech?
> >>
> >>Best Regards
> >>Gert
> >>
> >>Gert Svensson wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Dear Ludde,
> >>>
> >>>thanks for your letter!
> >>>
> >>>I totally agree that this is a most important part to pass
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>the review.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>All efforts have to be spent to produce a successful demo.
> >>>
> >>>About the rendering issue:
> >>>
> >>>From the correspondence during the Easter is seems that 
> OSGrenderer 
> >>>has implemented the transformation slightly wrong.
> >>>This should be easy to fix and should be done right away.
> >>>Is it correct that this renderer is not supporting colours and 
> >>>materials at the moment?
> >>>Also the avatar naming issue should be easy to fix. If user
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>selectable
> >>    
> >>
> >>>name is hard start with a fixed one and send this version.
> >>>
> >>>If this cannot be fixed an alternative has to be found. Eskil's 
> >>>renderer doesn't work so this is not an option at the moment. The 
> >>>simple renderer works well but is not impressing using
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>pseudo colours.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>The Necro package also contains a renderer and implements
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>colour and
> >>    
> >>
> >>>materials.
> >>>Test before the day before the Easter was however negative for the 
> >>>building. Nothing showed up at all. This may however be 
> possible to 
> >>>fix. Comments from Martin?
> >>>
> >>>For the roof of the building, couldn’t that be 
> approximated with an 
> >>>invisible flat roof?
> >>>I assume the reviewers wouldn't hear any difference?
> >>>
> >>>I know there are other issues about the model as well but I
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>don’t have
> >>    
> >>
> >>>first hand knowledge about the problems there so I postpone my 
> >>>comments on this issue.
> >>>
> >>>Best Regards
> >>>Gert
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Peter Lundén wrote:
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>Dear partners,
> >>>>
> >>>>Im concerned about the achitecural demo in the review. The
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>state of
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>the matter is that one week before the review we have not
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>been able
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>to set up the demo system, not even parts of it, we have only run 
> >>>>test of some of the sub-systems.
> >>>>
> >>>>We do not have a working model that can run in a verse
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>server. We do
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>not, after two years of work, have a visual renderer that can 
> >>>>correctly render a quite simple model not even without materials.
> >>>>This is in my oppinion the two most serius problems right
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>now and the
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>problems are VERY urgent to fix, how do we fix this? How
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>do we get a
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>working model? How to we get a working renderer that can
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>be used as a
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>navigator in the system?
> >>>>
> >>>>We do not even know if we can smoothly run an acoustic
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>simulation in
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>the current model as we have never been able to try. The 
> model has 
> >>>>some complication like curved surface that have never been tested.
> >>>>
> >>>>I think we are putting the whole project at risk if we can
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>not do a
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>good demo involving major parts of the whole project at 
> the review.
> >>>>What we can end up in is that we can only show the acoustic 
> >>>>simulation system without any involvment of verse and in
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>my oppinion
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>that would be a catastorphy.
> >>>>
> >>>>I have no other intensions of writing this then that I
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>would like us
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>to do a good impression at the review.
> >>>>
> >>>>Best regards,
> >>>>--PLu
> >>>>
> >>>>
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