[Uni-verse] [Fwd: Re: Proposal about Orange as Uni-Verse demonstrator]

[Lauri Savioja]

Hi Gert,

I think this is a good proposal, although I'm really reluctant to give
out our money. I don't have our budget at hand, but I can promise that
if this is OK for everyone else we'll be along the proposal. In
addition, we should make sure that no similar needs arise later from
other sources. So, I'm not willing to give 7500 Euros (or anything) to
anyone else asking for money to save the Universe. This includes
e.g. funding a booth in Siggraph'06.

Regards,
	Lauri

PS. I'll be out of office for the rest of the week.

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Gert Svensson wrote:

> Dear Partners,
> 
> as you already know it has been suggested to replace the so called "Lego 
> demonstrator"  by the
> animated movie project Orange, which the Blender foundation is 
> undertaking at the moment.
> 
> I think this is an excellent idea. However the Blender foundation needs 
> 30 kEuro additional funding for this
> which has to be transferred to the foundation this year. This and other 
> conditions you can see in the attached email.
> 
> I would suggest that this is solved by having the 4 larger partners 
> (KTH, II, HUT, FHG) transfer an equal part (7 500 Euro) of their budget
> to the Blender foundation. The request of fast payment can be solved by 
> distributing a larger fraction of the payment from the commission we
> are all waiting for at the moment.  I would suggest that we redistribute 
> an equal percentage of all the other partners to the Blender foundation.
> 
> To go ahead by this we need a PCC decision. This could be done over 
> email but first I would like to hear your comments on this proposal.
> Another question is if this change requires a approval by the 
> commission. After reading the WP text I'm inclined to say no.
> The WP text only refers to digital media and this is indeed digital 
> media. A game demonstrator is however mentioned in one place in the text
> but I think we can ignore that at the moment.
> 
> Best Regards
> Gert
> 

> From: Angela Plohman <aplohman at dds.nl>
> Subject: Re: Proposal about Orange as Uni-Verse demonstrator
> To: gert at pdc.kth.se
> Cc: ton at blender.org
> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:23:36 +0200
> 
> Dear Gert,
> 
> We have discussed your proposal regarding the Orange Open Movie project and we
> would like to propose the following.
> 
> We can agree to your conditions, being that Blender will:
> 
> * use verse in the production of the movie
> 
> * let Paregos take part at some point in the production so Paragos can make
> interviews and draw conclusions about the use of verse
> 
> * make models and results available for the Uni-Verse consortium and web page to
> use
> 
> * help with presenting the experience in newsletters or conferences.
> 
> In exchange for adding Orange as the demonstrator, we would like to request the
> following:
> 
> * if we will add Orange to Uni-Verse, we think it is reasonable to keep the full
> budget allocated to the Blender Foundation (152.481,00 Euro). In this context,
> we will allocate the 30.000 Euro we had intended to redistribute to
> Orange-related overhead. We will keep the same number of man-months (27 - which
> accounts for the 6 transferred to KTH), and we will raise our overhead by 30.000
> Euro maximum for Orange-related expenses.
> 
> * the Orange project is for the Blender Foundation an open source validation
> project. We are happy to include Uni-Verse in the project, but we would like to
> ask that in any communication about Orange, it is clear that ownership and
> responsibility for Orange remains with the Blender Foundation and the
> Netherlands Media Art Institute.
> 
> * in order for us to claim Orange costs in the Uni-Verse project, WP8 needs to
> have a new start date of September 1, 2005. This shouldn't be a problem as the
> reviewers also stressed that we begin evaluation and validation much earlier
> than originally planned.
> 
> * we would like to ask that the new deliverables (Orange, Blender-Verse) be
> approved by the EU by October 20. As you can understand, we can not sign
> anything or commit to this until there is formal approval from the EU. If you
> cannot get final approval before this date we reserve the right to withdraw this
> offer.
> 
> * lastly, we we would like to ask that the full 30,000 Euro be transferred to
> our bank account before the end of 2005.
> 
> We hope we can reach an agreement on the above in time for the IRL meeting in
> Stockholm.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Ton & Angela
> 
> 

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