From s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com Sat May 1 03:26:46 2004 From: s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (www.stani.be) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [spe.pycs.net] New spe (buggy alpha) version released!! In-Reply-To: <20040416040401.21831.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040501012646.39857.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all, Thanks for being so numerous on this list. After a lot of hard work I just released a new spe version, which you can download here: http://projects.blender.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=30&release_id=168 Unfortunately I have problems updating the spe.pycs.net website, so you won't find any information there. I would especially like to ask to all Linux and Mac users to test this version as quick as possible. Maybe it won't even work, as it is a major rewrite. So the sooner I get feedback, the sooner everything get solved. I'll leave on the 5th of may for two weeks, so than I can't really work on spe. This weekend I have time free, so it would be perfect if all bugs are solved by than. Please read carefully following text, which is included in spe_changes.txt Good luck, Stani So... This is a major rewrite because of wxPython 2.5. WARNING: This first alpha release will be for testing purposes only. So don't use for development work or use it at its own risk (as I do myself). This release should be quite bug free for Windows XP, but probably for Linux and Mac OS X a lot of debugging should be done. Before installing remove the file 'defaults.cfg' from your user path (see Help>About if you don't know your path). Also remove the 'sm' module folder from the site-packages path. Otherwise this will cause errors. The first goal is now to make spe running and alive for Linux and Mac Os X. This has all priority. Please run spe with the debug option (python SPE.py --debug) I expect that spe probably on these platforms won't even startup (missing files, bugs, ...), but don't let this discourage you. Together we'll manage. If spe doesn't startup, see if you can run the file sm/wxp/smdi.py. Run this file with MDI=0 and MDI=1 (second line in code). Out of the box SPE chooses automatically the framework: - MDI for Windows XP - SDI for Linux and Mac Os X However you can override these settings in the preferences dialog box, but Mac doesn't really support MDI. I didn't check yet the Blender support, that's for later when the new Blender2.33 comes out. PS. Alberto Griggio about current version of wxGlade (http://wxglade.sourceforge.net): WARNING: There have been reported many problems running wxGlade with the just released wxPython 2.5.1.5: we know this, and we're trying to do our best to fix them as soon as possible. In the meantime, we recommend to use wxPython 2.4: the generated code will be compatible with 2.5 anyway. Sorry for this... :Batteries included: - Kiki: Regular Expression (regex) console. For more info: http://project5.freezope.org/kiki/index.html - PyChecker: PyChecker is a tool for finding bugs in python source code. It finds problems that are typically caught by a compiler for less dynamic languages, like C and C++. It is similar to lint. For more info: http://pychecker.sourceforge.net - wxGlade: wxGlade is a GUI designer written in Python with the popular GUI toolkit wxPython, that helps you create wxWindows/wxPython user interfaces. As you can guess by the name, its model is Glade, the famous GTK+/GNOME GUI builder, with which wxGlade shares the philosophy and the look & feel (but not a line of code). For more info: http://wxglade.sourceforge.net :New features: - both MDI/SDI support - Mac OS X support (probably still need a lot of debugging, volunteers wanted) - tabs with open files - realtime sidebar (class explorer, todo & index update as you type!) - wxPython 2.5 support (latest 2.4 also still supported) - option to limit calltips to first paragraph - speed improvements, SPE runs now (much?) more fast :Bug fixes: - cut, copy and paste shortcuts work now in shell :Known issues: - SPE can only be started from its own directory (site-packages/_spe/SPE.py) As a consequence any batch script or windowsInstall (therefore not included) won't work. I'll try to fix this as soon as possible. :Requirements: - full python 2.2.2+ - wxpython 2.4.1.2+ - optional blender 2.31+ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From sim at klubko.net Sat May 1 07:36:16 2004 From: sim at klubko.net (=?windows-1252?Q?Petr_=8Aimon?=) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 07:36:16 +0200 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] TEST: Debian, 2.5.1.5 In-Reply-To: <20040501012646.39857.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040501012646.39857.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40933750.5020606@klubko.net> Hi Stani, Thanks for working on new SPE, can't wait for stable ;-) This is my exp with alpha: Debian python 2.3.3 wxPython 2.5.1.5 removed sm install gives me "WARNING: the location where spe is installed could not be retrieved." chedcked sm/wxp/smdi.py => works $ python SPE.py --debug Starting Spe v0.5.0.a ... If spe fails to start: - type "python SPE_.py --debug" at the command prompt - send the error report to s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (c)www.stani.be Importing modules... Traceback (most recent call last): File "SPE.py", line 72, in ? main(mdi=MDI,debug=DEBUG) File "SPE.py", line 24, in main import Menu,Parent,Child File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/_spe/Parent.py", line 24, in ? from shortcuts import shortcuts File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/_spe/shortcuts.py", line 2, in ? import spe.info ImportError: No module named spe.info I coudn't run SPE_.py Cheers Petr From s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com Sat May 1 14:10:38 2004 From: s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (www.stani.be) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 05:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [spe.pycs.net] TEST: Debian, 2.5.1.5->spe 0.5.0.b In-Reply-To: <40933750.5020606@klubko.net> Message-ID: <20040501121038.72133.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I just released the spe 0.5.0.b, which should fix these issues reported by the fast reaction of Petr (thanks!). Stani --- Petr_?imon wrote: > Hi Stani, > Thanks for working on new SPE, can't wait for stable > ;-) This is my exp > with alpha: > Debian > python 2.3.3 > wxPython 2.5.1.5 Thanks for your fast reaction! > > removed sm > install gives me "WARNING: the location where spe is > installed could not > be retrieved." This should be fixed now. > chedcked sm/wxp/smdi.py => works > > $ python SPE.py --debug > > Starting Spe v0.5.0.a ... > > If spe fails to start: > - type "python SPE_.py --debug" at the > command prompt > - send the error report to > s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com > > (c)www.stani.be > > Importing modules... > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "SPE.py", line 72, in ? > main(mdi=MDI,debug=DEBUG) > File "SPE.py", line 24, in main > import Menu,Parent,Child > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/_spe/Parent.py", > line 24, in ? > from shortcuts import shortcuts > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/_spe/shortcuts.py", > line 2, in ? > import spe.info > ImportError: No module named spe.info This should be fixed now. > > > I coudn't run SPE_.py SPE_.py doesn't exist anymore. From now on spe is started by 'python SPE.py' from the '_spe' directory. > > Cheers Petr Thanks!!!! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From sim at klubko.net Sat May 1 14:34:22 2004 From: sim at klubko.net (=?windows-1252?Q?Petr_=8Aimon?=) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 14:34:22 +0200 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] spe 0.5.0.b on Debian, 2.5.1.5 In-Reply-To: <20040501121038.72133.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040501121038.72133.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4093994E.6020504@klubko.net> Sorry for being instisting on 2.5.15 :-) Debian python2.3.3 wxPython 2.5.1.5 REPORT---------------------------------------------------------- simu at 0[_spe]$ python SPE.py --debug Starting Spe v0.5.0.b ... If spe fails to start: - type "python SPE_.py --debug" at the command prompt - send the error report to s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (c)www.stani.be Importing modules... Spe Warning: Spe was developped on wxPython v2.4.2.4., but v2.5.1.5.u was found. If you experience any problems please install wxPython v2.4.2.4. Blender support disabled (run Spe from within Blender for Blender support) Creating .tabs Creating tabs... Shell Locals Session Find Browser Recent Todo Index Notes Blender Donate Creating unnamed unnamed Creating .tabs Traceback (most recent call last): File "SPE.py", line 72, in ? main(mdi=MDI,debug=DEBUG) File "SPE.py", line 68, in main config=config,size=wx.Size(800,600)) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", line 637, in __init__ wx.App.__init__(self,redirect=0) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/wx/core.py", line 5042, in __init__ self._BootstrapApp() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/wx/core.py", line 4791, in _BootstrapApp return _core.PyApp__BootstrapApp(*args, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", line 641, in OnInit self.main = self.ParentFrame(self,**self.options) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", line 485, in __init__ Parent.__init__(self,application,**options) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", line 187, in __init__ self.__smdi__() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", line 208, in __smdi__ panel.__smdi__() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/_spe/Parent.py", line 77, in __smdi__ self.__remember__(openFiles=self._openFiles) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/_spe/Parent.py", line 162, in __remember__ self.new() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/_spe/Parent.py", line 209, in new child = self.ChildFrame(self.parent,name=os.path.basename(name),title=name,fileName=name,source=source,size=self.size) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", line 547, in __init__ Child.__init__(self,parent=parent,name=name,**options) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", line 289, in __init__ self.__smdi__() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", line 551, in __smdi__ Child.__smdi__(self) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", line 320, in __smdi__ panel.__smdi__() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/_spe/Child.py", line 68, in __smdi__ self.__source__(self._fileName,self._source) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/_spe/Child.py", line 154, in __source__ path=os.path.dirname(fileName),config=self.parentPanel.config) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/stc.py", line 97, in __init__ self.update() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/stc.py", line 488, in update self.SetViewEdge(self.getint('ViewEdge')) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/stc.py", line 477, in getint return self.config.getint('DEFAULT',name) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/ConfigParser.py", line 315, in getint return self._get(section, int, option) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/ConfigParser.py", line 312, in _get return conv(self.get(section, option)) ValueError: invalid literal for int(): True Cheers. Petr From s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com Sat May 1 19:03:39 2004 From: s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (www.stani.be) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 10:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [spe.pycs.net] spe 0.5.0.d In-Reply-To: <4093994E.6020504@klubko.net> Message-ID: <20040501170339.44905.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com> I saw already the first Linux screenshot by Petr. I'm curious now how far it would work on the mac. Nice. I made some small improvements (hide double tabs in Linux, mdi, bigger frame size for sdi, ...) and added a new feature: dynamic sash window for source code. So now you are allowed simultaneous views of your source code! One big question for linux users: why are there no toolbar icons and the transparent background of png icons is not transparent? I overwrote the wx.Bitmap function in order to use shorter notations and to be able to use skins later, so that the paths of the images can be changed. (see Parent.bitmap in Parent.py line 743) Probably the lack of toolbar icons has to do with that. Under windows this is not a problem. Stani __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com Sat May 1 23:40:44 2004 From: s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (www.stani.be) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 14:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [spe.pycs.net] spe 0.5.e In-Reply-To: <4093994E.6020504@klubko.net> Message-ID: <20040501214044.39614.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Several fixes (browser tab, menu exit, ...). Also now spe can again be launched from the SPE.pyw script. winInstall.py and winUninstall.py fixed and included as well. With previous versions, the toolbar didn't seem to work for linux, but now this issue might be solved. Please let me know. Stani __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com Sat May 1 15:31:00 2004 From: s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (www.stani.be) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 06:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [spe.pycs.net] spe 0.5.0.c In-Reply-To: <4093994E.6020504@klubko.net> Message-ID: <20040501133100.6716.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> New spe version because of a python2.3 issue... Thanks again Petr. From now send error reports to s_t_a_n_i at gmx.net to keep the traffic for this mailing list low. Stani --- Petr_?imon wrote: > Sorry for being instisting on 2.5.15 :-) That's no problem at all. Just ignore the warning about the wx version. > Debian > python2.3.3 > wxPython 2.5.1.5 > > > REPORT---------------------------------------------------------- > simu at 0[_spe]$ python SPE.py --debug > > Starting Spe v0.5.0.b ... > > If spe fails to start: > - type "python SPE_.py --debug" at the > command prompt > - send the error report to > s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com > > (c)www.stani.be > > Importing modules... > > Spe Warning: Spe was developped on wxPython > v2.4.2.4., but v2.5.1.5.u > was found. > If you experience any problems please install > wxPython v2.4.2.4. > > Blender support disabled (run Spe from within > Blender for Blender support) > Creating .tabs > Creating tabs... > Shell > Locals > Session > Find > Browser > Recent > Todo > Index > Notes > Blender > Donate > Creating unnamed > unnamed > Creating .tabs > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "SPE.py", line 72, in ? > main(mdi=MDI,debug=DEBUG) > File "SPE.py", line 68, in main > config=config,size=wx.Size(800,600)) > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", > line 637, in > __init__ > wx.App.__init__(self,redirect=0) > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/wx/core.py", line > 5042, in __init__ > self._BootstrapApp() > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/wx/core.py", line > 4791, in > _BootstrapApp > return _core.PyApp__BootstrapApp(*args, > **kwargs) > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", > line 641, in > OnInit > self.main = > self.ParentFrame(self,**self.options) > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", > line 485, in > __init__ > Parent.__init__(self,application,**options) > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", > line 187, in > __init__ > self.__smdi__() > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", > line 208, in > __smdi__ > panel.__smdi__() > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/_spe/Parent.py", > line 77, in > __smdi__ > self.__remember__(openFiles=self._openFiles) > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/_spe/Parent.py", > line 162, in > __remember__ > self.new() > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/_spe/Parent.py", > line 209, in new > child = > self.ChildFrame(self.parent,name=os.path.basename(name),title=name,fileName=name,source=source,size=self.size) > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", > line 547, in > __init__ > > Child.__init__(self,parent=parent,name=name,**options) > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", > line 289, in > __init__ > self.__smdi__() > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", > line 551, in > __smdi__ > Child.__smdi__(self) > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/smdi.py", > line 320, in > __smdi__ > panel.__smdi__() > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/_spe/Child.py", > line 68, in > __smdi__ > self.__source__(self._fileName,self._source) > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/_spe/Child.py", > line 154, in > __source__ > > path=os.path.dirname(fileName),config=self.parentPanel.config) > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/stc.py", > line 97, in > __init__ > self.update() > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/stc.py", > line 488, in update > self.SetViewEdge(self.getint('ViewEdge')) > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/sm/wxp/stc.py", > line 477, in getint > return self.config.getint('DEFAULT',name) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/ConfigParser.py", line > 315, in getint > return self._get(section, int, option) > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/ConfigParser.py", line > 312, in _get > return conv(self.get(section, option)) > ValueError: invalid literal for int(): True > > Cheers. > Petr > _______________________________________________ > Spe-user mailing list > Spe-user at blender.org > http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com Sun May 2 05:57:35 2004 From: s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (www.stani.be) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 20:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [spe.pycs.net] spe 0.5.0.f In-Reply-To: <4093994E.6020504@klubko.net> Message-ID: <20040502035735.55257.qmail@web21113.mail.yahoo.com> It feels like spamming... New: - very smooth integration with Pychecker. - update blender manuals - replaced old html manual with old pdf manual - a lot of minor bugfixes... Bye, Stani __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From rasjidw at openminddev.net Sun May 2 11:36:02 2004 From: rasjidw at openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 19:36:02 +1000 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] spe 0.5.0.f In-Reply-To: <20040502035735.55257.qmail@web21113.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040502035735.55257.qmail@web21113.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200405021936.02013.rasjidw@openminddev.net> On Sunday 02 May 2004 13:57, www.stani.be wrote: > It feels like spamming... > New: > - very smooth integration with Pychecker. > - update blender manuals > - replaced old html manual with old pdf manual > - a lot of minor bugfixes... I'm sure I speak for everyone on this list when I say thanks a lot for your work on SPE Stani. Cheers, Rasjid. -- Rasjid Wilcox Canberra, Australia (UTC +10 hrs) http://www.openminddev.net From s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com Sun May 2 17:55:38 2004 From: s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (www.stani.be) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 08:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [spe.pycs.net] spe 0.5.0.g In-Reply-To: <200405021936.02013.rasjidw@openminddev.net> Message-ID: <20040502155538.87869.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Rasjid, I just released spe 0.5.0.g Fixes, most important ones: icons all changed to 16x16, frames now should raise in SDI, toolbar seems to work on Linux and dissappears on the mac (?!)... Stani http://projects.blender.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=30 --- Rasjid Wilcox wrote: > On Sunday 02 May 2004 13:57, www.stani.be wrote: > > It feels like spamming... > > New: > > - very smooth integration with Pychecker. > > - update blender manuals > > - replaced old html manual with old pdf manual > > - a lot of minor bugfixes... > > I'm sure I speak for everyone on this list when I > say thanks a lot for your > work on SPE Stani. > > Cheers, > > Rasjid. > > -- > Rasjid Wilcox > Canberra, Australia (UTC +10 hrs) > http://www.openminddev.net > > _______________________________________________ > Spe-user mailing list > Spe-user at blender.org > http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com Mon May 3 04:36:42 2004 From: s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (www.stani.be) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 19:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [spe.pycs.net] spe 0.5.0.h In-Reply-To: <20040502155538.87869.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040503023642.90352.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> Another bunch of fixes... I moved Pychecker to the sidebar, as this makes more sense. Wow, pychecker immediately helped me to take out and correct some crooked code. Check it out for yourself. Luckily it seems that spe is getting stable for windows and linux. Mac Os X support will need some more feedback of mac users, but we are also already half way. Some experienced mac users who can not only trace bugs, but also give solutions would be welcome. Tomorrow (monday) is the last day I can look at serious bugs. So that's a deadline. It will probably take till end may before I have some time to continue. But don't let that stop you from reporting bugs. Have fun everyone with spe! Stani Get it at: http://projects.blender.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=30 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From godoy at ieee.org Sat May 1 14:31:52 2004 From: godoy at ieee.org (Jorge Godoy) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 09:31:52 -0300 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: spe 0.5.0.b on Debian, 2.5.1.5 References: <20040501121038.72133.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> <4093994E.6020504@klubko.net> Message-ID: On S?b 01 Mai 2004 09:34, Petr ?imon wrote: > Sorry for being instisting on 2.5.15 :-) > Debian > python2.3.3 > wxPython 2.5.1.5 It ran fine here, wxPython 2.4.2.4, Python 2.3.3. But when I tried cut & paste to move a function, it blew up. And I liked more the view we had with all tabs on the same window... Now there are multiple windows that make things messy. -- Godoy. From s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com Tue May 4 17:30:10 2004 From: s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (www.stani.be) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 08:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040504153010.58633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> As some Linux users clearly prefer MDI rather than SDI, I start wondering what's the most Linux-touch to start spe by default MDI (one window) or SDI (each seperate). So the majority will decide what will be used next. Please vote. Stani PS Jorge, do you still have that problem with copy/paste in the latest release spe 0.5.0.j? --- Jorge Godoy wrote: > On S?b 01 Mai 2004 09:34, Petr ?imon wrote: > > > Sorry for being instisting on 2.5.15 :-) > > Debian > > python2.3.3 > > wxPython 2.5.1.5 > > It ran fine here, wxPython 2.4.2.4, Python 2.3.3. > > But when I tried cut & paste to move a function, it > blew up. > > And I liked more the view we had with all tabs on > the same window... Now > there are multiple windows that make things messy. > > -- > Godoy. > > _______________________________________________ > Spe-user mailing list > Spe-user at blender.org > http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From kristof.semjen at free.fr Tue May 4 22:11:52 2004 From: kristof.semjen at free.fr (Kristof) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 22:11:52 +0200 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? In-Reply-To: <20040504153010.58633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040504153010.58633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1083701511.15477.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 17:30, www.stani.be wrote: > As some Linux users clearly prefer MDI rather than > SDI, I start wondering what's the most Linux-touch to > start spe by default MDI (one window) or SDI (each > seperate). So the majority will decide what will be > used next. Please vote. > Stani > > PS Jorge, do you still have that problem with > copy/paste in the latest release spe 0.5.0.j? > I'have not tested the new spe yet(sorry I will within the week), but since you're asking : I do prefer MDI (generally more stable and clearer). Thanks for you're great work, I've downloaded your script, it's a matter of hours right now. KriStof From riccardo at sideralis.net Wed May 5 03:23:06 2004 From: riccardo at sideralis.net (Riccardo Galli) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 03:23:06 +0200 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? In-Reply-To: <20040504153010.58633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040504153010.58633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040505032306.4363ff8b.riccardo@sideralis.net> On Tue, 4 May 2004 08:30:10 -0700 (PDT) "www.stani.be" wrote: > As some Linux users clearly prefer MDI rather than > SDI, I start wondering what's the most Linux-touch to > start spe by default MDI (one window) or SDI (each > seperate). So the majority will decide what will be > used next. Please vote. > Stani > > PS Jorge, do you still have that problem with > copy/paste in the latest release spe 0.5.0.j? As a Linux user, I vote for MDI. I find it cleaner. I'll try the new Spe as soon as possible. Ciao, Riccardo -- -=Riccardo Galli=- _,e. s~ `` ~@. ideralis Programs . ol `**~ http://www.sideralis.net From godoy at ieee.org Wed May 5 06:26:40 2004 From: godoy at ieee.org (Jorge Godoy) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 01:26:40 -0300 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? References: <20040504153010.58633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Ter 04 Mai 2004 12:30, www.stani.be wrote: > As some Linux users clearly prefer MDI rather than > SDI, I start wondering what's the most Linux-touch to > start spe by default MDI (one window) or SDI (each > seperate). So the majority will decide what will be > used next. Please vote. > Stani > > PS Jorge, do you still have that problem with > copy/paste in the latest release spe 0.5.0.j? I'm sorry for the long delay. I'll give it a try ASAP. And I prefer MDI... :-) Thanks! -- Godoy. From kristof.semjen at free.fr Wed May 5 11:30:35 2004 From: kristof.semjen at free.fr (Kristof) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 11:30:35 +0200 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? In-Reply-To: <20040504153010.58633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040504153010.58633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1083749435.17265.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 17:30, www.stani.be wrote: > As some Linux users clearly prefer MDI rather than > SDI, I start wondering what's the most Linux-touch to > start spe by default MDI (one window) or SDI (each > seperate). So the majority will decide what will be > used next. Please vote. > Stani > I've finally managed to test spe verxion j(on linux FC1), it runs great but not within blender. I guess in tabs/Blender.py line 94 "self.main.Add(self.filling, 1, wxALL | wxEXPAND, 0)" should be self.main.Add(self.filling, 1, wx.ALL | wx.EXPAND, 0) Is that? KriStof From tehirsch at arcor.de Wed May 5 12:31:39 2004 From: tehirsch at arcor.de (Tina Hirsch) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 12:31:39 +0200 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? In-Reply-To: <20040504153010.58633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040504153010.58633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I join the overwhelming MDI majority :) Tina On Tue, 4 May 2004 08:30:10 -0700 (PDT) "www.stani.be" wrote: > As some Linux users clearly prefer MDI rather than > SDI, I start wondering what's the most Linux-touch to > start spe by default MDI (one window) or SDI (each > seperate). So the majority will decide what will be > used next. Please vote. > Stani > > PS Jorge, do you still have that problem with > copy/paste in the latest release spe 0.5.0.j? > > --- Jorge Godoy wrote: > > On S_b 01 Mai 2004 09:34, Petr ?imon wrote: > > > > > Sorry for being instisting on 2.5.15 :-) > > > Debian > > > python2.3.3 > > > wxPython 2.5.1.5 > > > > It ran fine here, wxPython 2.4.2.4, Python 2.3.3. > > > > But when I tried cut & paste to move a function, it > > blew up. > > > > And I liked more the view we had with all tabs on > > the same window... Now > > there are multiple windows that make things messy. > > > > -- > > Godoy. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Spe-user mailing list > > Spe-user at blender.org > > http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover > _______________________________________________ > Spe-user mailing list > Spe-user at blender.org > http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user From rasjidw at openminddev.net Wed May 5 13:45:31 2004 From: rasjidw at openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 21:45:31 +1000 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? In-Reply-To: <20040504153010.58633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040504153010.58633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200405052145.31916.rasjidw@openminddev.net> On Wednesday 05 May 2004 01:30, www.stani.be wrote: > As some Linux users clearly prefer MDI rather than > SDI, I start wondering what's the most Linux-touch to > start spe by default MDI (one window) or SDI (each > seperate). So the majority will decide what will be > used next. Please vote. > Stani I fall on the MDI side too. -- Rasjid Wilcox Canberra, Australia (UTC +10 hrs) http://www.openminddev.net From s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com Wed May 5 14:20:52 2004 From: s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (www.stani.be) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 05:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? In-Reply-To: <1083749435.17265.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040505122052.11245.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Yesterday I released already 0.5.1.a the version which works for Blender. Stani --- Kristof wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 17:30, www.stani.be wrote: > > As some Linux users clearly prefer MDI rather than > > SDI, I start wondering what's the most Linux-touch > to > > start spe by default MDI (one window) or SDI (each > > seperate). So the majority will decide what will > be > > used next. Please vote. > > Stani > > > I've finally managed to test spe verxion j(on linux > FC1), it runs great > but not within blender. I guess in tabs/Blender.py > line 94 > "self.main.Add(self.filling, 1, wxALL | wxEXPAND, > 0)" should be > self.main.Add(self.filling, 1, wx.ALL | wx.EXPAND, > 0) > Is that? > KriStof > > _______________________________________________ > Spe-user mailing list > Spe-user at blender.org > http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From godoy at ieee.org Wed May 5 15:12:44 2004 From: godoy at ieee.org (Jorge Godoy) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 10:12:44 -0300 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? References: <1083749435.17265.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040505122052.11245.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3s5nm1-0n6.ln1@wintermute.g2ctech> On Qua 05 Mai 2004 09:20, www.stani.be wrote: > Yesterday I released already 0.5.1.a the version which > works for Blender. > Stani Hi Stani. I've tried the 0.5.1.a and: 1. It stopped working out of the box, now I had to edit /usr/bin/spe to point do the correct interpreter at the she-bang (#!/usr/bin/python instead of the #!c:\...) 2. I had to run /usr/bin/spe through dos2unix, to get the line endings correct (they were correct on previous versions) 3. The Cut & Paste thing works. 4. Although it's written that 'Alt-F4' is the shortcut for the exit, it only closes the current window. If I select the menu option it closes the program. It might be due to my X be trapping these keys before SPE, though... 5. Each window of the SDI has tabs for the other open documents, but when I click on such a tab, the other open window pops up above the current one. 6. My mouse scroll stopped working :-) I'm eager for a 'b' version, with MDI and my mouse scroll button working again :-) -- Godoy. From tehirsch at arcor.de Wed May 5 16:12:42 2004 From: tehirsch at arcor.de (Tina Hirsch) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 16:12:42 +0200 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? In-Reply-To: <3s5nm1-0n6.ln1@wintermute.g2ctech> References: <1083749435.17265.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040505122052.11245.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> <3s5nm1-0n6.ln1@wintermute.g2ctech> Message-ID: 1. That's because build/scripts* are still in the package ... and Stani seems to switch to python2.3 now too. Deleting those directories before packaging or installing respectively creates on each platform the correct script. 2. same as 1. 4. For me it switches desktops... but that's because I set my wm to do so :) 5. This still does not work proper on linux. I hope I can fix this soon. Tina On Wed, 05 May 2004 10:12:44 -0300 Jorge Godoy wrote: > On Qua 05 Mai 2004 09:20, www.stani.be wrote: > > > Yesterday I released already 0.5.1.a the version which > > works for Blender. > > Stani > > Hi Stani. > > > I've tried the 0.5.1.a and: > > 1. It stopped working out of the box, now I had to edit /usr/bin/spe > to point do the correct interpreter at the she-bang (#!/usr/bin/python > instead of the #!c:\...) > > 2. I had to run /usr/bin/spe through dos2unix, to get the line endings > correct (they were correct on previous versions) > > 3. The Cut & Paste thing works. > > 4. Although it's written that 'Alt-F4' is the shortcut for the exit, > it only closes the current window. If I select the menu option it > closes the program. It might be due to my X be trapping these keys > before SPE, though... > > 5. Each window of the SDI has tabs for the other open documents, but > when I click on such a tab, the other open window pops up above the > current one. > > 6. My mouse scroll stopped working :-) > > > I'm eager for a 'b' version, with MDI and my mouse scroll button > working again :-) > > -- > Godoy. > > _______________________________________________ > Spe-user mailing list > Spe-user at blender.org > http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user From sim at klubko.net Wed May 5 18:42:42 2004 From: sim at klubko.net (Petr =?utf-8?q?=C5=A0imon?=) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 18:42:42 +0200 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? In-Reply-To: <1083749435.17265.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040504153010.58633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> <1083749435.17265.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200405051842.43150.sim@klubko.net> Definitely MDI. Petr From s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com Thu May 6 01:02:55 2004 From: s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (www.stani.be) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 16:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [spe.pycs.net] MDI is available on Linux (poll finished) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040505230255.29708.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, It seems clear that MDI for linux won. We are here just talking about the default behaviour. Everyone on every platform can choose between MDI or SDI in the preferences dialog box (General tab, document interface). So since spe 0.5.0 MDI was always still available, it was not removed. I hope this is clear. Now my answers: 1. Yes, now Blender switched to python2.3, I did as well. So next release I delete all build/scripts* files. For now I put a notice on the http://spe.pycs.net website 2. idem according to Tina 3. Good! 4. This is not on Windows, so this must be a Linux issue. Anyone can figure out a patch. (Please email me about this with s_t_a_n_i at gmx.net) This is the code on 437 in Menu.py: def menu_exit(self, event=None): """File > Exit""" self.parentPanel.parent.onFrameClose() onFrameClose is defined in smdi.py 5. Go ahead Tina. 6. Is this only in 0.5.1.a or was it already in a previous release? Any error when spe runs in debugging mode? In Windows it works, so again a Linux patch needed by a volunteer. There definitely will come a 'b' version, but not now. I announced before that now I am away and the next versions are the latest scheduled for the end of may. Stani --- Tina Hirsch wrote: > > 1. That's because build/scripts* are still in the > package ... and Stani > seems to switch to python2.3 now too. > Deleting those directories before packaging or > installing respectively > creates on each platform the correct script. > > 2. same as 1. > > 4. For me it switches desktops... but that's because > I set my wm to do > so :) > > 5. This still does not work proper on linux. I hope > I can fix this soon. > > > > Tina > > > > > > On Wed, 05 May 2004 10:12:44 -0300 > Jorge Godoy wrote: > > > On Qua 05 Mai 2004 09:20, www.stani.be wrote: > > > > > Yesterday I released already 0.5.1.a the version > which > > > works for Blender. > > > Stani > > > > Hi Stani. > > > > > > I've tried the 0.5.1.a and: > > > > 1. It stopped working out of the box, now I had to > edit /usr/bin/spe > > to point do the correct interpreter at the > she-bang (#!/usr/bin/python > > instead of the #!c:\...) > > > > 2. I had to run /usr/bin/spe through dos2unix, to > get the line endings > > correct (they were correct on previous versions) > > > > 3. The Cut & Paste thing works. > > > > 4. Although it's written that 'Alt-F4' is the > shortcut for the exit, > > it only closes the current window. If I select the > menu option it > > closes the program. It might be due to my X be > trapping these keys > > before SPE, though... > > > > 5. Each window of the SDI has tabs for the other > open documents, but > > when I click on such a tab, the other open window > pops up above the > > current one. > > > > 6. My mouse scroll stopped working :-) > > > > > > I'm eager for a 'b' version, with MDI and my mouse > scroll button > > working again :-) > > > > -- > > Godoy. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Spe-user mailing list > > Spe-user at blender.org > > http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user > _______________________________________________ > Spe-user mailing list > Spe-user at blender.org > http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From lanzonim at csr.unibo.it Thu May 6 10:49:41 2004 From: lanzonim at csr.unibo.it (Mattia Lanzoni) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 10:49:41 +0200 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Spe - 0.5.1.A Message-ID: <4099FC25.90303@csr.unibo.it> Hi, you are doing a good job with Spe. I like it. I usually work on linunx and i find the MDI interface to be the best. The SDI is too confusing. Just a couple of things: - scrolling with the mousewheel doesn't work on the editor, but it works with the shell. This wa true also with previous releases. - i think there is an error in the startup script for linux (/usr/bin/spe): the first line is #!C:\...\spe.exe Thanks. Mattia. From lanzonim at csr.unibo.it Thu May 6 11:04:58 2004 From: lanzonim at csr.unibo.it (Mattia Lanzoni) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 11:04:58 +0200 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Feature Request Message-ID: <4099FFBA.4020706@csr.unibo.it> Hi, what about an extended version of autocomplete that works also with names of variables and methods inside your source-code, this should be activated with a shortcut. Somenthing like this: in your code you have a method called "listXYZDirectory()" so instead of just typing the whole name, you just type "listX"+shortcut and the autocomplete will pop up all the possible solutions Just an idea. Thanks. Mattia. From alfredo at bioinfo.cu Thu May 6 13:39:45 2004 From: alfredo at bioinfo.cu (Alfredo Valles) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 07:39:45 -0400 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Feature Request In-Reply-To: <4099FFBA.4020706@csr.unibo.it> References: <4099FFBA.4020706@csr.unibo.it> Message-ID: <409A2401.3010004@bioinfo.cu> Mattia Lanzoni wrote: > Hi, > > what about an extended version of autocomplete that works also with > names of variables and methods inside your source-code, this should be > activated with a shortcut. > Oh, yes. I think this feature would be specially usefull for any scripting language editor. From project5 at redrival.net Wed May 5 19:17:55 2004 From: project5 at redrival.net (Andrei) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 19:17:55 +0200 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? References: <20040504153010.58633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <14kag3iu1plmz$.1t3oxwtwqhrw2$.dlg@40tude.net> www.stani.be wrote on Tue, 4 May 2004 08:30:10 -0700 (PDT): > As some Linux users clearly prefer MDI rather than > SDI, I start wondering what's the most Linux-touch to > start spe by default MDI (one window) or SDI (each > seperate). So the majority will decide what will be > used next. Please vote. I prefer MDI, both on Windows and on Linux. There's lots of very popular tabbed apps (tabs are after all just MDI) on Linux, so it's not exotic or anything. -- Yours, Andrei ===== Real contact info (decode with rot13): cebwrpg5 at jnanqbb.ay. Fcnz-serr! Cyrnfr qb abg hfr va choyvp cbfgf. V ernq gur yvfg, fb gurer'f ab arrq gb PP. From s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com Thu May 6 23:35:26 2004 From: s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (www.stani.be) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 14:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Feature Request In-Reply-To: <409A2401.3010004@bioinfo.cu> Message-ID: <20040506213526.27109.qmail@web21112.mail.yahoo.com> I agree completely. Only it is a matter of time, especially as this is all volunteerly work. Right now I'm busy enough to solve the bugs of this release. It must not be to hard to implement: look in the code of sm/wxp/stc.py If someone has some time for this, I'll be happy to assist. Stani --- Alfredo Valles wrote: > Mattia Lanzoni wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > what about an extended version of autocomplete > that works also with > > names of variables and methods inside your > source-code, this should be > > activated with a shortcut. > > > Oh, yes. I think this feature would be specially > usefull for any > scripting language editor. > > > _______________________________________________ > Spe-user mailing list > Spe-user at blender.org > http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From stephen at theboulets.net Fri May 7 13:45:39 2004 From: stephen at theboulets.net (Stephen Boulet) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 06:45:39 -0500 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? In-Reply-To: <14kag3iu1plmz$.1t3oxwtwqhrw2$.dlg@40tude.net> References: <20040504153010.58633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> <14kag3iu1plmz$.1t3oxwtwqhrw2$.dlg@40tude.net> Message-ID: <200405070645.40122.stephen@theboulets.net> I added a build script for SPE to the queue for new ebuilds for the Gentoo linux distribution: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50338 Hopefully in a few days it will get added to the distribution. The command "emerge app-editors/spe" will install it and all of its dependencies. -- Stephen From here to there and there to here, funny things are everywhere. -- Dr Seuss From stephen at theboulets.net Fri May 7 13:54:48 2004 From: stephen at theboulets.net (Stephen Boulet) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 06:54:48 -0500 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? In-Reply-To: <14kag3iu1plmz$.1t3oxwtwqhrw2$.dlg@40tude.net> References: <20040504153010.58633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> <14kag3iu1plmz$.1t3oxwtwqhrw2$.dlg@40tude.net> Message-ID: <200405070654.48967.stephen@theboulets.net> On Wednesday 05 May 2004 12:17 pm, Andrei wrote: > I prefer MDI, both on Windows and on Linux. There's lots of very popular > tabbed apps (tabs are after all just MDI) on Linux, so it's not exotic or > anything. I agree. One window to rule them all... -- Stephen From here to there and there to here, funny things are everywhere. -- Dr Seuss From rho at swiftdsl.com.au Fri May 7 14:09:21 2004 From: rho at swiftdsl.com.au (Nigel Rowe) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 22:09:21 +1000 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? In-Reply-To: <200405070654.48967.stephen@theboulets.net> References: <14kag3iu1plmz$.1t3oxwtwqhrw2$.dlg@40tude.net> <200405070654.48967.stephen@theboulets.net> Message-ID: <200405072209.27160@fisheggs+neverbox.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Before all this "One window to rule them all..." goes toooo far, *PLEASE* don't let SDI mode disappear. Its the main reason I've just started using spe (changed from idle). I see no problem with MDI being the default, if thats what the general consenus is, but please leave SDI available as an option. BTW a question to all you MDI users out there, how would you keep the contents of both module.py (the code) and module_test.py (the unit tests) visible at the same time when running in MDI mode??? Nigel On Fri, 7 May 2004 21:54, Stephen Boulet wrote: > On Wednesday 05 May 2004 12:17 pm, Andrei wrote: > > I prefer MDI, both on Windows and on Linux. There's lots of very popular > > tabbed apps (tabs are after all just MDI) on Linux, so it's not exotic or > > anything. > > I agree. One window to rule them all... - -- Nigel Rowe rho at swiftdsl.com.au -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAm3xxBbmcM2pfckkRAiaxAKD29KYWXrOO4EIEEpaYoFCu4pUq3QCg9gH6 eDMnPqd4Der5Ka+gfRq1xzU= =aw+o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From borco at go.ro Fri May 7 15:27:22 2004 From: borco at go.ro (Ionutz Borcoman) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 16:27:22 +0300 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? In-Reply-To: <200405072209.27160@fisheggs+neverbox.com> References: <14kag3iu1plmz$.1t3oxwtwqhrw2$.dlg@40tude.net> <200405070654.48967.stephen@theboulets.net> <200405072209.27160@fisheggs+neverbox.com> Message-ID: <409B8EBA.9060704@go.ro> I am also for MDI. MDI apps like Visual Studio, has a box where the files are shown. You can maximize your file (and see only one file at a time) or you can cascade, tile, etc. the open files and see what you like. The code browser, output window, etc can be 'docked' or 'floated' on the sides of the main frame. My proposal is this: 1. Edited files should be viewable in the middle region of the main frame. The region should show tabs with the name of the edited files. The active tab should correspond to the active file. If the files are maximized, they would take all avilable space. If not, the user could tile or cascade the files (from a menu item) or resize the files with the mouse. 2. The 'utility' windows (like output windows, code browser, etc.) should allow grouping in toolboxes. The toolboxes could 'float' or be docked on the right, left or bottom sides of the main window (the top side should allow only for the normal toolbar and menubar). The user should be able to move a 'utility' window from one toolbox to another by dragging its tab from one toolbox and dropping it to another. If the tab is not dropped on another toolbox, a new toolbox containing only this 'utility' window should be created. This model is similar with the Adobe one (and with what the new Gimp 2 is doing). Ionutz Nigel Rowe wrote: > Before all this "One window to rule them all..." goes toooo far, *PLEASE* > don't let SDI mode disappear. Its the main reason I've just started using > spe (changed from idle). > > I see no problem with MDI being the default, if thats what the general > consenus is, but please leave SDI available as an option. > > BTW a question to all you MDI users out there, how would you keep the contents > of both module.py (the code) and module_test.py (the unit tests) visible at > the same time when running in MDI mode??? > > Nigel ________ Information from NOD32 ________ This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System for Linux Mail Server. http://www.nod32.com From stephen at theboulets.net Fri May 7 16:06:38 2004 From: stephen at theboulets.net (Stephen Boulet) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:06:38 -0500 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: SPE on Gentoo In-Reply-To: <200405070645.40122.stephen@theboulets.net> References: <14kag3iu1plmz$.1t3oxwtwqhrw2$.dlg@40tude.net> <200405070645.40122.stephen@theboulets.net> Message-ID: <200405070906.38834.stephen@theboulets.net> I didn't realize that there was alreay an ebuild for SPE (though a bit old). I'll follow up with it to get the newer version up. On Friday 07 May 2004 06:45 am, Stephen Boulet wrote: > I added a build script for SPE to the queue for new ebuilds for the Gentoo > linux distribution: > > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50338 > > Hopefully in a few days it will get added to the distribution. The command > "emerge app-editors/spe" will install it and all of its dependencies. -- Stephen From here to there and there to here, funny things are everywhere. -- Dr Seuss From rho at swiftdsl.com.au Fri May 7 16:34:14 2004 From: rho at swiftdsl.com.au (Nigel Rowe) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 00:34:14 +1000 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? In-Reply-To: <409B8EBA.9060704@go.ro> References: <200405072209.27160@fisheggs+neverbox.com> <409B8EBA.9060704@go.ro> Message-ID: <200405080034.31837@fisheggs+neverbox.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 7 May 2004 23:27, Ionutz Borcoman wrote: > I am also for MDI. > > MDI apps like Visual Studio, has a box where the files are shown. You > can maximize your file (and see only one file at a time) or you can > cascade, tile, etc. the open files and see what you like. The code > browser, output window, etc can be 'docked' or 'floated' on the sides of > the main frame. > Thats fine on windoze, but on linux (wxGTK2) MDI mode there is no option to tile/cascade the open file windows. There is a single editing area with tabs along the top, meaning that only one file is visible at a time. Its a bit like running visual studio with the file window maximised, but with tabs to select the active file. I know MDI is common in the windoze world (with the notable exception of internet explorer), but I find it interesting that even microsoft seems to be moving away from mdi. To quote from msdn:- Note MDI is an application-oriented model. Many new and intermediate users find it difficult to learn to use MDI applications. Therefore, many applications are switching to a document-oriented model. Therefore, you may want to consider other models for your user interface. However, you can use MDI for applications which do not easily fit into an existing model until a more suitable model is introduced. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winui/ WinUI/WindowsUserInterface/Windowing/MultipleDocumentInterface.asp (beware word wrap in that url) On unix platforms, however SDI has traditionally been more the rule. Ie Motif/CDE or more recently KDE and Gnome To quote from the relevant guidelines (sorry I don't have cde's to hand). KDE User interface guidelines In MDI the application is represented by the application-window. The application-window can contain a number of document-windows. Each opened document is represented by a document-window. KDE applications should not use this model, but use the SDI model instead. GNOME Human Interface Guidelines Use SDI for your GNOME application unless there is a compelling reason not to. and MDI has several inherent usability problems, so its use is not encouraged in new GNOME applications Not withstanding the above rant, I personally happen to *LIKE* sdi! As I said before, I see no problem with MDI being the default, if thats what the general consenus is, but please leave SDI available as an option. > > Ionutz > - -- Nigel Rowe rho at swiftdsl.com.au -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAm55vBbmcM2pfckkRAiUmAJ4r3dys1kHcrDhjO0WAsvIYbULMcgCg2EzP jW6LIXgh6WwIeBbNq7mwUhc= =jGWC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com Fri May 7 17:15:32 2004 From: s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (www.stani.be) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 08:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Linux packages (volunteers)? In-Reply-To: <200405070645.40122.stephen@theboulets.net> Message-ID: <20040507151532.72132.qmail@web21113.mail.yahoo.com> Great! How flexible is this system? Because a user reported a serious bug which can cause SPE unexpectly to crash. I have to investigate it when I'm back (at the end of may), as I'm travelling now. Also to all you Linux users out there. Are there not more of you who can create stuff like rpm packages for other distros for stable versions of Spe. I guess I can give people access to the Blender website to update these when new spe releases are out. Or is there no need as python setup.py is comfortable enough? Let me know... Also it would be nice if Linux users try to push spe into other standard distributions of Red Hat, Suse, Mandrake, ... Anyone has connections? Stani --- Stephen Boulet wrote: > I added a build script for SPE to the queue for new > ebuilds for the Gentoo > linux distribution: > > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50338 > > Hopefully in a few days it will get added to the > distribution. The command > "emerge app-editors/spe" will install it and all of > its dependencies. > > -- > Stephen > From here to there > and there to here, > funny things are everywhere. -- Dr Seuss > > _______________________________________________ > Spe-user mailing list > Spe-user at blender.org > http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From tehirsch at arcor.de Fri May 7 17:19:07 2004 From: tehirsch at arcor.de (Tina Hirsch) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 17:19:07 +0200 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: SPE on Gentoo In-Reply-To: <200405070906.38834.stephen@theboulets.net> References: <14kag3iu1plmz$.1t3oxwtwqhrw2$.dlg@40tude.net> <200405070645.40122.stephen@theboulets.net> <200405070906.38834.stephen@theboulets.net> Message-ID: Since Stani said version 0.5.0 is highly alpha I decided not to upload a new version (I made the other ones) up to now. Though I attached now a modification of the previous ebuilds to your bug (Since someone wrote something about invalid header). The patch for setup.py is needed that spe doesn't complain about already installed versions - we have gentoo after all :) However the ebuild is only for x86. Therefore if anybody is here who can confirm that it works with another platform too, please tell. Greetings, Tina On Fri, 7 May 2004 09:06:38 -0500 Stephen Boulet wrote: > I didn't realize that there was alreay an ebuild for SPE (though a bit > old). I'll follow up with it to get the newer version up. > > On Friday 07 May 2004 06:45 am, Stephen Boulet wrote: > > I added a build script for SPE to the queue for new ebuilds for the > > Gentoo linux distribution: > > > > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50338 > > > > Hopefully in a few days it will get added to the distribution. The > > command"emerge app-editors/spe" will install it and all of its > > dependencies. > > -- > Stephen > From here to there > and there to here, > funny things are everywhere. -- Dr Seuss > > _______________________________________________ > Spe-user mailing list > Spe-user at blender.org > http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user From s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com Fri May 7 17:23:33 2004 From: s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (www.stani.be) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 08:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? In-Reply-To: <409B8EBA.9060704@go.ro> Message-ID: <20040507152333.12366.qmail@web21111.mail.yahoo.com> Hi , Let me first reassure all SDI enthousiasts that from now on SDI will always be implemented. The reason is very simple, Mac can't handle MDI very well, and I want spe definitely on the Mac platform. However in the next version MDI will be the default for Linux, but once again this can't be changed in the preferences. Ionutz, thanks for your proposal. I think number 1 is already quite implemented and number two looks very nice, but there is not yet code for floatable/dockable windows provided by wxPython (only for a single dockable toolbar). Of course I could do this myself, but I would prefer to spend that time in other things, like solving all the mac bugs, implementing more plugins, better autocomplete, debugger, ... But if you feel tempted to write a class for dockable/floatable windows, I would be happy to implement it for spe. Stani --- Ionutz Borcoman wrote: > I am also for MDI. > > MDI apps like Visual Studio, has a box where the > files are shown. You > can maximize your file (and see only one file at a > time) or you can > cascade, tile, etc. the open files and see what you > like. The code > browser, output window, etc can be 'docked' or > 'floated' on the sides of > the main frame. > > My proposal is this: > > 1. Edited files should be viewable in the middle > region of the main > frame. The region should show tabs with the name of > the edited files. > The active tab should correspond to the active file. > If the files are > maximized, they would take all avilable space. If > not, the user could > tile or cascade the files (from a menu item) or > resize the files with > the mouse. > > 2. The 'utility' windows (like output windows, code > browser, etc.) > should allow grouping in toolboxes. The toolboxes > could 'float' or be > docked on the right, left or bottom sides of the > main window (the top > side should allow only for the normal toolbar and > menubar). The user > should be able to move a 'utility' window from one > toolbox to another by > dragging its tab from one toolbox and dropping it to > another. If the tab > is not dropped on another toolbox, a new toolbox > containing only this > 'utility' window should be created. > > This model is similar with the Adobe one (and with > what the new Gimp 2 > is doing). > > Ionutz > > Nigel Rowe wrote: > > > Before all this "One window to rule them all..." > goes toooo far, *PLEASE* > > don't let SDI mode disappear. Its the main reason > I've just started using > > spe (changed from idle). > > > > I see no problem with MDI being the default, if > thats what the general > > consenus is, but please leave SDI available as an > option. > > > > BTW a question to all you MDI users out there, how > would you keep the contents > > of both module.py (the code) and module_test.py > (the unit tests) visible at > > the same time when running in MDI mode??? > > > > Nigel > > > > > > ________ Information from NOD32 ________ > This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System > for Linux Mail Server. > http://www.nod32.com > _______________________________________________ > Spe-user mailing list > Spe-user at blender.org > http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From godoy at ieee.org Fri May 7 18:12:43 2004 From: godoy at ieee.org (Jorge Godoy) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 13:12:43 -0300 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? References: <409B8EBA.9060704@go.ro> <20040507152333.12366.qmail@web21111.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sex 07 Mai 2004 12:23, www.stani.be wrote: > Hi , > Let me first reassure all SDI enthousiasts that from > now on SDI will always be implemented. The reason is > very simple, Mac can't handle MDI very well, and I > want spe definitely on the Mac platform. However in > the next version MDI will be the default for Linux, > but once again this can't be changed in the > preferences. > > Ionutz, thanks for your proposal. I think number 1 is > already quite implemented and number two looks very > nice, but there is not yet code for floatable/dockable > windows provided by wxPython (only for a single > dockable toolbar). Of course I could do this myself, > but I would prefer to spend that time in other things, > like solving all the mac bugs, implementing more > plugins, better autocomplete, debugger, ... But if you > feel tempted to write a class for dockable/floatable > windows, I would be happy to implement it for spe. > Stani What's the name of that other widget that happens to help here... Hmmm... I think it's sash window... I'll have a look at the demo... One second, please... SashWindow. It's at .../demo/wxSashWindow.py. Associating sash with or without tabs seems to be *very* interesting and 'elegant' and also solves the problem of looking at different parts of the code or at different files. This is what I used to have on Emacs ;-), with several buffers either hidden or simultaneously shown. Imagining each tab as a buffer and having sashwindows in them would be interesting. Take a look at the 'wxMultiSash' demo, in the 'More Windows/Controls' section and at the 'wxSashWindow' in the 'Core Windows/Controls' section. Be seeing you, -- Godoy. From godoy at ieee.org Fri May 7 18:16:28 2004 From: godoy at ieee.org (Jorge Godoy) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 13:16:28 -0300 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: Linux packages (volunteers)? References: <200405070645.40122.stephen@theboulets.net> <20040507151532.72132.qmail@web21113.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sex 07 Mai 2004 12:15, www.stani.be wrote: > Great! > How flexible is this system? Because a user reported > a serious bug which can cause SPE unexpectly to crash. > I have to investigate it when I'm back (at the end of > may), as I'm travelling now. > Also to all you Linux users out there. Are there not > more of you who can create stuff like rpm packages for > other distros for stable versions of Spe. I guess I > can give people access to the Blender website to > update these when new spe releases are out. Or is > there no need as python setup.py is comfortable > enough? Let me know... > Also it would be nice if Linux users try to push spe > into other standard distributions of Red Hat, Suse, > Mandrake, ... Anyone has connections? > Stani I can create an Apt repository for Conectiva Linux as well. I can even suggest the package to be included there, but I can maintain them here if they don't accept it... their packaging rules might be a little different than other distributions, but I don't think it would be a problem to maintain an specific specfile (they separate docs, libs, examples, etc. in packages of their own, so that you can handle each part in a separated way and have a system with less space used with things you don't need -- after all, does anybody uses all the locales from glibc on their system? ;-)) Be seeing you, -- Godoy. From godoy at ieee.org Fri May 7 18:29:27 2004 From: godoy at ieee.org (Jorge Godoy) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 13:29:27 -0300 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: Re: Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? References: <200405072209.27160@fisheggs+neverbox.com> <409B8EBA.9060704@go.ro> <200405080034.31837@fisheggs+neverbox.com> Message-ID: <7pqsm1-9sp.ln1@wintermute.g2ctech> On Sex 07 Mai 2004 11:34, Nigel Rowe wrote: > KDE User interface guidelines > > In MDI the application is represented by the application-window. The > application-window can contain a number of document-windows. Each opened > document is represented by a document-window. KDE applications should not > use this model, but use the SDI model instead. Interestingly Konqueror's interface is initially MDI based, even though you can create new MDI windows... Using it as a file explorer you can select different profiles with the tabs on the left, that give the impression you have different windows. It is also true for other apps... With regards to Gnome, they also use MDI for several applications like, to name one, Gnucash (this is an excellent application!). I find the screen clearer and better to manage this way... If using SDI, there should be a parent window that can be closed or minimized that takes all the children with it. It's really boring to minimize 10 windows of the same program... -- Godoy. From rho at swiftdsl.com.au Fri May 7 19:31:35 2004 From: rho at swiftdsl.com.au (Nigel Rowe) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 03:31:35 +1000 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? In-Reply-To: <7pqsm1-9sp.ln1@wintermute.g2ctech> References: <200405080034.31837@fisheggs+neverbox.com> <7pqsm1-9sp.ln1@wintermute.g2ctech> Message-ID: <200405080331.47338@fisheggs+neverbox.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 May I suggest we let this topic die now. Stani has indicated that SDI will always be implemented, so the point I was trying to make in the first place has been satisfied. - -- Nigel Rowe rho at swiftdsl.com.au -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAm8gABbmcM2pfckkRArJ4AKDWcmoEFqDI05Lp2Az8cohvtOoQ+wCgo5DT Wn4nz5Hi3EdSvp3YHWlcrCY= =e+Fo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From stephen at theboulets.net Sat May 8 01:59:08 2004 From: stephen at theboulets.net (Stephen Boulet) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 18:59:08 -0500 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: SPE on Gentoo In-Reply-To: References: <200405070906.38834.stephen@theboulets.net> Message-ID: <200405071859.08291.stephen@theboulets.net> On Friday 07 May 2004 10:19 am, Tina Hirsch wrote: > Though I attached now a modification of the previous ebuilds to your > bug (Since someone wrote something about invalid header). > The patch for setup.py is needed that spe doesn't complain about already > installed versions - we have gentoo after all :) > > However the ebuild is only for x86. Therefore if anybody is here who > can confirm that it works with another platform too, please tell. > > > Greetings, > Tina Thanks Tina. Since you've already submitted the first ones I'll let you get the updates in. I've just recently subscribed to this list so I'm still learning. Stephen From s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com Sat May 8 04:37:52 2004 From: s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (www.stani.be) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 19:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: Poll: SDI or MDI for Linux as default? FINISHED In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040508023752.11135.qmail@web21111.mail.yahoo.com> Indeed let's stop this poll. SDI and MDI are and will both be supported by SPE on all platforms. Default behaviour was chosen by majority. Seems fair. Jorge, spe is already using sashwindows. The whole window under in MDI with shell, recent, browser, index, todo, ... is a sashwindow. That's not the problem. If people want dockable windows, you need to write a class for a window which can switch interactively between a (mini)frame and a sashwindow. This is not impossible, but I have other things to do (see previous mail). If someone wants to implement this, he should test on the file sm/wxp/smdi.py (the spe motor behind the double mdi/sdi interface). If it works there, it will work in spe. Stani --- Jorge Godoy wrote: > On Sex 07 Mai 2004 12:23, www.stani.be wrote: > > > Hi , > > Let me first reassure all SDI enthousiasts that > from > > now on SDI will always be implemented. The reason > is > > very simple, Mac can't handle MDI very well, and I > > want spe definitely on the Mac platform. However > in > > the next version MDI will be the default for > Linux, > > but once again this can't be changed in the > > preferences. > > > > Ionutz, thanks for your proposal. I think number 1 > is > > already quite implemented and number two looks > very > > nice, but there is not yet code for > floatable/dockable > > windows provided by wxPython (only for a single > > dockable toolbar). Of course I could do this > myself, > > but I would prefer to spend that time in other > things, > > like solving all the mac bugs, implementing more > > plugins, better autocomplete, debugger, ... But if > you > > feel tempted to write a class for > dockable/floatable > > windows, I would be happy to implement it for spe. > > Stani > > What's the name of that other widget that happens to > help here... Hmmm... I > think it's sash window... I'll have a look at the > demo... One second, > please... > > SashWindow. > > It's at .../demo/wxSashWindow.py. > > Associating sash with or without tabs seems to be > *very* interesting and > 'elegant' and also solves the problem of looking at > different parts of the > code or at different files. This is what I used to > have on Emacs ;-), with > several buffers either hidden or simultaneously > shown. Imagining each tab > as a buffer and having sashwindows in them would be > interesting. > > > Take a look at the 'wxMultiSash' demo, in the 'More > Windows/Controls' > section and at the 'wxSashWindow' in the 'Core > Windows/Controls' section. > > > Be seeing you, > -- > Godoy. > > _______________________________________________ > Spe-user mailing list > Spe-user at blender.org > http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From eigil.s at bluezone.no Thu May 13 00:09:53 2004 From: eigil.s at bluezone.no (Eigil Sletbak) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 00:09:53 +0200 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Install problems om Mandreake 10.0 Message-ID: I am attempring to install SPE, but run into problems. This is the result I get: [root at eigillx SPE-0.5.1.a-wx2.4.2.4.-bl2.31]# python setup.py Thanks for trying spe 0.5.1.a Requirements: Blender 2.31 (optional for spe) wxPython 2.4.2.4. (not for blenpy) running install error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.3/config/Makefile (No such file or directory) I have Python 2.3.3 (#2, Feb 17 2004, 11:45:40), and >>> wx.VERSION_STRING '2.4.2.4' Does anyone recognze the problem? Eigil From stephen at theboulets.net Thu May 13 15:02:25 2004 From: stephen at theboulets.net (Stephen Boulet) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 08:02:25 -0500 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Leo and SPE Message-ID: <200405130802.25615.stephen@theboulets.net> I noticed that Leo was listed in the optional category in the readme file for dependencies. Is there any shared functionality between Leo andSPE? -- Stephen From here to there and there to here, funny things are everywhere. -- Dr Seuss From s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com Thu May 13 15:40:17 2004 From: s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (www.stani.be) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 06:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Leo and SPE In-Reply-To: <200405130802.25615.stephen@theboulets.net> Message-ID: <20040513134017.60307.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com> There is no shared functionality between Leo and spe. However blenpy makes it possible to launch Leo from within Blender. Stani --- Stephen Boulet wrote: > I noticed that Leo was listed in the optional > category in the readme file for > dependencies. > > Is there any shared functionality between Leo > andSPE? > > -- > Stephen > From here to there > and there to here, > funny things are everywhere. -- Dr Seuss > > _______________________________________________ > Spe-user mailing list > Spe-user at blender.org > http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' http://movies.yahoo.com/showtimes/movie?mid=1808405861 From tehirsch at arcor.de Fri May 14 15:23:08 2004 From: tehirsch at arcor.de (Tina Hirsch) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 15:23:08 +0200 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Install problems om Mandreake 10.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040514152308.0bdf4489@cyra.localdomain> Do you have this file (/usr/lib/python2.3/config/Makefile) on your computer? Maybe it's part of python development package. At least that's the case for debian. I don't know if it's the same for mandrake or how it's exactly called there. Tina On Thu, 13 May 2004 00:09:53 +0200 Eigil Sletbak wrote: > I am attempring to install SPE, but run into problems. > > This is the result I get: > > [root at eigillx SPE-0.5.1.a-wx2.4.2.4.-bl2.31]# python setup.py > > Thanks for trying spe 0.5.1.a > > > Requirements: > Blender 2.31 (optional for spe) > wxPython 2.4.2.4. (not for blenpy) > running install > error: invalid Python installation: unable to open > /usr/lib/python2.3/config/Makefile (No such file or directory) > > > I have Python 2.3.3 (#2, Feb 17 2004, 11:45:40), and > >>> wx.VERSION_STRING > '2.4.2.4' > > Does anyone recognze the problem? > > Eigil > _______________________________________________ > Spe-user mailing list > Spe-user at blender.org > http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user From eigil.s at bluezone.no Sun May 16 01:02:39 2004 From: eigil.s at bluezone.no (Eigil Sletbak) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 01:02:39 +0200 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Re: Install problems om Mandreake 10.0 (Tina Hirsch) In-Reply-To: <20040515100006.23714.38791.Mailman@localhost> References: <20040515100006.23714.38791.Mailman@localhost> Message-ID: Thank you, I Installed all python related development packages i could find in my distro, and then the install went just fine. Eigil > 1. Re: Install problems om Mandreake 10.0 (Tina Hirsch) > > --__--__-- > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 15:23:08 +0200 > From: Tina Hirsch > To: spe-user at blender.org > Subject: Re: [spe.pycs.net] Install problems om Mandreake 10.0 > Reply-To: spe-user at blender.org > > Do you have this file (/usr/lib/python2.3/config/Makefile) on your > computer? Maybe it's part of python development package. At least that's > the case for debian. I don't know if it's the same for mandrake or how > it's exactly called there. > > Tina > > > On Thu, 13 May 2004 00:09:53 +0200 > Eigil Sletbak wrote: > >> I am attempring to install SPE, but run into problems. >> >> This is the result I get: >> >> [root at eigillx SPE-0.5.1.a-wx2.4.2.4.-bl2.31]# python setup.py >> >> Thanks for trying spe 0.5.1.a >> >> >> Requirements: >> Blender 2.31 (optional for spe) >> wxPython 2.4.2.4. (not for blenpy) >> running install >> error: invalid Python installation: unable to open >> /usr/lib/python2.3/config/Makefile (No such file or directory) >> >> >> I have Python 2.3.3 (#2, Feb 17 2004, 11:45:40), and >> >>> wx.VERSION_STRING >> '2.4.2.4' >> >> Does anyone recognze the problem? >> >> Eigil >> _______________________________________________ >> Spe-user mailing list >> Spe-user at blender.org >> http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Spe-user mailing list > Spe-user at blender.org > http://www.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/spe-user > > > End of Spe-user Digest -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ From s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com Sun May 16 02:29:01 2004 From: s_t_a_n_i at yahoo.com (www.stani.be) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 17:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [spe.pycs.net] New spe release 0.5.1.c In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040516002901.89718.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com> Please check this one out... Especially mac users, report bugs & fixes. Stani __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ From lanzonim at csr.unibo.it Mon May 17 12:33:47 2004 From: lanzonim at csr.unibo.it (Mattia Lanzoni) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:33:47 +0200 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] Spe - 0.5.1.D Message-ID: <40A8950B.2010304@csr.unibo.it> Hi, Just downloaded it. Everything works fine. The new feature [context-fed auto completion (Ctrl+Space)] works perfectly. Good Job. Mattia. From olivier.ravard at novagrid.com Thu May 27 12:51:16 2004 From: olivier.ravard at novagrid.com (Olivier Ravard) Date: 27 May 2004 12:51:16 +0200 Subject: [spe.pycs.net] two questions Message-ID: <1085655076.3784.29.camel@trantor.univ-rennes1.fr> Hi, Thanks for spe. Great tool. I have two questions : 1. I want to customize menus (add some new items) on spe. The documentation tells that we could add a file in framework/menus/ dir but this dir doesn't exist... Where should we put files to add some item menus and some buttons on the toolbar ? 2. How can we defines TODO that enter in the 'todo' notebook page ? Thanks. Olivier -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/spe-user/attachments/20040527/76626474/attachment.htm