[Demoreel] Blender Reel

Ton Roosendaal ton at blender.org
Wed Jun 20 11:29:48 CEST 2012 

Hi all,

Let's organize this a bit.

1) Mailing list

That cleans up! :) 
The demoreel mailing list is open for everyone to join, with history everyone can read too. So we can invite others to check the mails, join the list, without creating this confusing CC spam. 

We can unlist everyone when the reel has been created succesfully.

2) Uploads

This whole dropbox thing is also unneeded, why not use blender.org? We have anonymous ftp service, with half a Tera of free space.

ftp: ftp.blender.org
user: anonymous

cd to directory incoming/ to write files.

The files will appear on http://download.blender.org/incoming/

I suggest to create a directory there with name like reel2012/ or so for everyone to upload files.
Anonymous ftp access has no right to delete files, only to write and load. I can do the cleanup later.

3) License of files: CC-NC-ND

It has to be *explicitly* stated by submitters that the contents for the reel will be used by Blender Foundation, using proper credit in the film, but with the entire reel licensed as CC-sa-nd (share alike, no derivates). (The non-commercial CC is not acceptable for many reasons, like showing it at Siggraph is already "commercial").

4) Focus

It's unclear to me what's now going to be made... but I won't use a video with voice over on Siggraph. That's very annoying for the booth crew and mostly inaudable anyway. 

If you would want to include various content targets, then group this together and make shorter clips around a specific topic? Like:

- vfx reel
- animation (film)
- viz (rendered stuff, architecture or science, simulations)
- game engine

Paul said:
> I've been looking at past SIGGRAPH videos for various software packages.

Show urls (youtube) of videos you like, or examples you think we should not do. Easier to share ideas of what direction you want to go into.

Thanks,

-Ton-

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Ton Roosendaal  Blender Foundation   ton at blender.org    www.blender.org
Blender Institute   Entrepotdok 57A  1018AD Amsterdam   The Netherlands

On 20 Jun, 2012, at 9:23, Reynante Martinez wrote:

> Hi, Mike.
> 
> I just got word from Bart.  Should we give him the green light
> to publish an article on BN regarding this?
> 
> Let me know.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -Reyn
> 
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Reynante Martinez <reynantem at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Jonathan.
> 
> Where will the uploaded files go (e.g. images)?
> 
> -Reyn
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Jonathan Williamson <shadowdragon1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Yep it already works! It will only notify me at the moment but I think I can give one or two of you access to it. I'll have to check in the morning. 
> 
> -- 
> Jonathan Williamson
> Sent with Sparrow
> 
> On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Reynante Martinez wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> Is that upload form already working?
>> 
>> I'll might have to link to that already on some
>> of my posts.
>> 
>> Let me know.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> -Reyn
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Reynante Martinez <reynantem at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Copy that, Paul.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:14 PM, paul caggegi <flawedprefect at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Music - I've put in a couple of royalty free tracks, but I'm sure
>> there are better tracks out there. If anyone knows any good FOSS
>> music, feel free to add to the dropbox.
>> 
>> 
>> On 20 June 2012 13:31, paul caggegi <flawedprefect at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hey guys, sorry to confuse you re: game engine. I was just using it as
>> > an example for a header.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 20 June 2012 13:26, Reynante Martinez <reynantem at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Jonathan, just wanted to ask, what if users want to
>> >> submit vertical images? Would the 1600px minimum
>> >> size still apply? That's too large already for a vertical
>> >> image, IMO.
>> >>
>> >> What do you think?
>> >>
>> >> -Reyn
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Reynante Martinez <reynantem at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Sweet! That form is just awesome, Jonathan.
>> >>>
>> >>> Paul, regarding the GE stuff, I'm not quite sure
>> >>> myself if that would be a good inclusion on the
>> >>> reel, but of course it would make a great
>> >>> addition to the demo vid.  Of which one of the
>> >>> best BGE I've seen around was by Endre Barath
>> >>> (spelling?)
>> >>>
>> >>> http://vimeo.com/10436689
>> >>>
>> >>> Let's see what the other guys say about the
>> >>> reel.
>> >>>
>> >>> -Reyn
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:14 AM, shadowdragon1 at gmail.com
>> >>> <shadowdragon1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> These specs are actually mentioned when you click into the respective
>> >>>> field. However, I will also mention it at the top to ensure people see it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Jonathan Williamson
>> >>>> Education Manager and Instructor
>> >>>> CG Cookie, Inc
>> >>>> http://cgcookie.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 at 10:11 PM, paul caggegi wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We should have a minimum resolution. Video: no smaller than 720p;
>> >>>> images to the specs you provided, Mike.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 20 June 2012 13:10, Mike Pan <mike.c.pan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Looks good to me Jonathan. Maybe include a blurb about submitting work in
>> >>>> the highest quality possible? Last year I got quite a few 640x400 videos
>> >>>> which were unfortunately not usable.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:06 PM, shadowdragon1 at gmail.com
>> >>>> <shadowdragon1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hey guys,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> How does this look for the form?
>> >>>> https://cgcookie.wufoo.com/forms/siggraph-demo-reel-submission-form/
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Jonathan Williamson
>> >>>> Education Manager and Instructor
>> >>>> CG Cookie, Inc
>> >>>> http://cgcookie.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Reynante Martinez wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Copy that, Paul. :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:49 AM, paul caggegi <flawedprefect at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Yup, I've set up the structure in the dropbox. I think we just do one
>> >>>> folder - for SIGGRAPH and the demo will use the same best selections,
>> >>>> but in a recut.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 20 June 2012 12:43, Reynante Martinez <reynantem at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Great idea, Mike, breakdowns would be a nice addition too.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So far, here's what will be needed:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> videos for SIGGRAPH
>> >>>>
>> >>>> animations
>> >>>> features (motion tracker, fluids, smoke, sculpt, Cycles, etc.)
>> >>>> breakdowns
>> >>>>
>> >>>> stills for SIGGRAPH
>> >>>>
>> >>>> character
>> >>>> vehicles
>> >>>> scenes
>> >>>> abstract
>> >>>> etc.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> videos for DEMO
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What do you think?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Reyn
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Mike Pan <mike.c.pan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I didn't think a form would be necessary. But you are right, it might
>> >>>> be
>> >>>> easier. Jonathan, if it's not too much trouble, can you set one up?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Image should be allowed, especially if they showcase different stages
>> >>>> of a
>> >>>> work-in-progress. Kind of like a comp break-down. But of course video
>> >>>> would
>> >>>> be preferred.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> m
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 7:25 PM, paul caggegi <flawedprefect at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> For simplicity, let's do it for everything. I will compress references
>> >>>> and place in the dropbox. Shall I create a couple of folders so we can
>> >>>> sort out the best stuff from the not-so-best?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 20 June 2012 12:24, Reynante Martinez <reynantem at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> For all these resources, should it only be strictly videos
>> >>>> that'll be submitted (just like the previous SIGGRAPH
>> >>>> reel) or would it be a good idea to throw in stills as well?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What do you guys think?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Reyn
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:22 AM, paul caggegi
>> >>>> <flawedprefect at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Great thinking, Jonathan. I've just got a short list of points
>> >>>> right
>> >>>> now as a script, and I've not gotten further until we're certain we
>> >>>> need one... I guess we do! :) I'll get onto this ASAP and will put
>> >>>> it
>> >>>> in the dropbox.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Any points you guys can think of to go into the video, just holler
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> I'll draft up a line or paragraph for it. With Jonathan doing the
>> >>>> voice, I'll be taking my cue from some blender cookie tutorials for
>> >>>> the tone. But with added OMFGWTF-AWESOME.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'll be throwing in a few tracks to listen to shortly.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 20 June 2012 12:16, Jonathan Williamson
>> >>>> <shadowdragon1 at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks guys! I would be honored to narrate the video :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Paul, you mentioned you were working on the script. Would you
>> >>>> like
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> put it
>> >>>> in Dropbox as well for general input?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mike, for the image and video submission, would it work better to
>> >>>> use a
>> >>>> submission form? I can set up a slick one through Wufoo. This way
>> >>>> we
>> >>>> can
>> >>>> avoid direct emails and weird submission formats. Goodness knows
>> >>>> people
>> >>>> don't like to read :) people can upload directly to the form.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Jonathan Williamson
>> >>>> Sent with Sparrow
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Mike Pan wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Collecting content for both video sounds fine to me, as long as
>> >>>> Paul
>> >>>> can
>> >>>> handle the initial workload. that means I'll rephrase the
>> >>>> BlenderNation
>> >>>> post
>> >>>> a bit.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> m
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Reynante Martinez
>> >>>> <reynantem at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Haha! Please, no WWF voice or not until we see
>> >>>> the final thing. :p
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Yeah, Jonathan's articulation simply rocks.  I wouldn't
>> >>>> mind watching a 3-hour or more video with his voice
>> >>>> on it.  Anybody agree with me?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hey, Jason, would love to hear your thoughts too.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> bart at blendernation.com seems to be down, delivery
>> >>>> is failed, you guys know what's up?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Reyn
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:47 AM, paul caggegi
>> >>>> <flawedprefect at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Guys, this is such a huge exciting job, i would not mind in the
>> >>>> least
>> >>>> for doing two versions - I do this all the time for clients.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Reynante - genius. Jonathan as voice would rock. I was gonna do
>> >>>> my
>> >>>> WWF
>> >>>> announcer voice, but... :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 20 June 2012 11:45, Reynante Martinez <reynantem at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mike, thanks for the input.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Is it strictly constrained to being one video for SIGGRAPH
>> >>>> only? Because if not, we could (permitted we have enough
>> >>>> time) throw in two videos separately - one reel and one
>> >>>> sexy 'this-is-what-blender-really-is'.  Then off-SIGGAPH,
>> >>>> probably Paul could collate the contents of the two and use
>> >>>> it as a marketing material for Blender itself, either posted
>> >>>> on blender.org and viewed publicly (very beneficial for new
>> >>>> users as well).  Eventually, I'm hoping, artists from other
>> >>>> apps or studios will realize: "Ah, so this IS Blender afterall,
>> >>>> not so scary now, is it?"
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Also, Jonathan, I vote for you being the narrator for these
>> >>>> stuff.  Please let me know if that's fine with you. :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi, Bart, we'd love to hear your input on this too (yes, I
>> >>>> know it felt too sudden adding you on the email thread),
>> >>>> since we believe you have the necessary resources we
>> >>>> need as far as the contents are concerned.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> P.S.
>> >>>> Mike's BMW should be included in the video, it's just simply
>> >>>> inevitable. ;)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Reyn
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Mike Pan <mike.c.pan at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The reel, as it were last year, was shown at our little booth,
>> >>>> on
>> >>>> a
>> >>>> big
>> >>>> tv, on loop with sound set to relatively low volume. You can
>> >>>> see
>> >>>> it
>> >>>> from
>> >>>> this video. I think that's mostly it. There is no centralized
>> >>>> media
>> >>>> package
>> >>>> that I know of.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 6:10 PM, paul caggegi
>> >>>> <flawedprefect at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sure thing, Mike - added. My personal taste is the sexy reel
>> >>>> which
>> >>>> can
>> >>>> speak volumes by just showing what it is. I've (sadly) never
>> >>>> been
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> a
>> >>>> Sigraph, so what is the intended target for screening? At a
>> >>>> stand?
>> >>>> Will it be shown as part of a talk? Will it be made available
>> >>>> as
>> >>>> some
>> >>>> sort of media package of looping reels that will be played all
>> >>>> over
>> >>>> the venue?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> A scriptless video will have much more scope, but if there is
>> >>>> going
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> be an audience which will be prepped to pay attention, I'll
>> >>>> get
>> >>>> behind
>> >>>> a script.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 20 June 2012 11:06, Mike Pan <mike.c.pan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Allow me to throw a few of my own observations and thoughts
>> >>>> into
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> mix.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I too think a demo-reel and a narrated video would be two
>> >>>> very
>> >>>> different
>> >>>> products. I like both ideas equally. For Siggraph, we need
>> >>>> something
>> >>>> sexy to
>> >>>> hook people. For the website, a 'What is Blender' video as
>> >>>> suggested
>> >>>> by
>> >>>> Paul
>> >>>> would be great to introduce people to the community aspect
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> Blender.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> From my past experience, open source is not a big selling
>> >>>> point
>> >>>> in
>> >>>> North
>> >>>> America as some other regions, it's almost stigmatized to
>> >>>> some
>> >>>> degree.
>> >>>> So I
>> >>>> wouldn't play open source as a huge strength as Siggraph,
>> >>>> Ton
>> >>>> might
>> >>>> disagree? But ultimately, more people wants to know 'what
>> >>>> blender
>> >>>> can
>> >>>> do for
>> >>>> me' rather than 'what I can do for blender'. Unless we want
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> attract
>> >>>> coders as much as we want to attract users?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Considering that Siggraph is mere months away, we'll need to
>> >>>> start
>> >>>> collecting footage. I'll give Bart a poke. I honestly think
>> >>>> maintaining
>> >>>> a
>> >>>> low-rest version just so that everyone can preview them in
>> >>>> dropbox
>> >>>> is
>> >>>> going
>> >>>> to be a lot of work, is there a file sharing service that
>> >>>> has
>> >>>> more
>> >>>> than
>> >>>> 6GB
>> >>>> free?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Meanwhile, Paul, can you add my dropbox account too?
>> >>>> mike.c.pan at gmail.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>> mike
>> >>>>
>> >>>> CC:Bart
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:44 PM, paul caggegi
>> >>>> <flawedprefect at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Good thinking. Bart would be good to find material.
>> >>>> Jonathan,
>> >>>> Reynante
>> >>>> - you've been invited to the dropbox folder. Anyone else
>> >>>> want
>> >>>> into
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> dropbox, let me know and I'll add. I've got about 6GB worth
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> space,
>> >>>> and the way I'll work is this: Upload any files you like in
>> >>>> as
>> >>>> good a
>> >>>> quality you can find them - I'd really love to do an HD
>> >>>> edit
>> >>>> (or
>> >>>> higher!) for the final product. I'll take them down and
>> >>>> begin
>> >>>> an
>> >>>> editing job. I'll replace videos I've received with low-res
>> >>>> versions
>> >>>> so we know what's been added and have a reference, but
>> >>>> don't
>> >>>> run
>> >>>> out
>> >>>> of room. I'll then add an approvals sub-folder in which
>> >>>> I'll
>> >>>> upload
>> >>>> draft edits on which you all can comment.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If anyone can suggest a good royalty-free piece of music,
>> >>>> I'd
>> >>>> be
>> >>>> happy
>> >>>> to use it as the bed track. I'll put a few suggestions in
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> dropbox
>> >>>> myself, and when decided we'll contact the artist to ask
>> >>>> permission -
>> >>>> who wouldn't want their work seen/heard at Sigraph, right?
>> >>>> :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 20 June 2012 10:27, Reynante Martinez
>> >>>> <reynantem at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> By the way, I was just thinking, should we include
>> >>>> Bart Veldhuizen of BlenderNation? We could tap his
>> >>>> news feeds and get more info about the items posted
>> >>>> over at BN.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Reyn
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Reynante Martinez
>> >>>> <reynantem at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I agree.  We will definitely run out of content.  Now it
>> >>>> will
>> >>>> just
>> >>>> be a matter of contacting the artists/producers of those
>> >>>> vids/
>> >>>> footages for usage permissions and what not.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have DropBox as well, you can share it to this email
>> >>>> reynantem at gmail.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jonathan, do you think it might be best to do a rough
>> >>>> list
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> the things that will be included in the reel/demo? Then
>> >>>> we
>> >>>> brainstorm as a team until we come up with the final
>> >>>> list.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Reyn
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Jonathan Williamson
>> >>>> <shadowdragon1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hey all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I think there's definitely a lot of great work from
>> >>>> this
>> >>>> last
>> >>>> year
>> >>>> we
>> >>>> can
>> >>>> show! Combined with actual Blender footage we should
>> >>>> have
>> >>>> no
>> >>>> shortage
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> content.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Paul,
>> >>>> I've got DropBox, you can share out a folder to
>> >>>> jonathan at cgcookie.com.
>> >>>> Anyone else?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Jonathan Williamson
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Instructor - http://www.blendercookie.com
>> >>>> Personal Trainer - http://www.mavenseed.com
>> >>>> Portfolio - http://www.jw3d.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Ton Roosendaal
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you check a year of blendernation posts, there's
>> >>>> definitely
>> >>>> enough
>> >>>> examples.
>> >>>> The showreel can also include quality work from past
>> >>>> years...
>> >>>> I
>> >>>> still
>> >>>> think a lot of Project London work stands out!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Ton-
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>> Ton Roosendaal Blender Foundation ton at blender.org
>> >>>> www.blender.org
>> >>>> Blender Institute Entrepotdok 57A 1018AD Amsterdam The
>> >>>> Netherlands
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 19 Jun, 2012, at 2:17, Reynante Martinez wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks for the prompt reply, Ton.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> First off, you might already have read the previous
>> >>>> email
>> >>>> thread
>> >>>> started
>> >>>> by Mike regarding the PR for Blender. Nothing put me up
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> this,
>> >>>> so
>> >>>> to speak, I just felt too envious of the C4D promo vid
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> felt
>> >>>> Blender
>> >>>> deserves such.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We'll discuss this and will keep you posted of any
>> >>>> progression
>> >>>> we
>> >>>> will
>> >>>> have.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Reyn
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:30 AM, paul caggegi
>> >>>> <flawedprefect at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> Hi Ton, we've not met - apologies, I should have
>> >>>> introduced
>> >>>> myself
>> >>>> first.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> My name is Paul Caggegi. I run a blog and podcast
>> >>>> called
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> process
>> >>>> diary - processdiary.com - where I document the behind
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> scenes
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> current personal projects - many of which involve
>> >>>> Blender
>> >>>> is
>> >>>> some
>> >>>> capacity.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> My day is job is freelance video editor/motion
>> >>>> graphics.
>> >>>> I've
>> >>>> done
>> >>>> work for many advertising agencies over the years
>> >>>> (coming
>> >>>> up
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> around
>> >>>> 12 now) so I know a bit about the advertising game, and
>> >>>> how to
>> >>>> put
>> >>>> together a good showreel.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You can see my showreel from a couple of years' back
>> >>>> here:
>> >>>> http://processdiary.com/?page_id=28 I'm still working
>> >>>> on
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> latest,
>> >>>> which will include a lot of concept work for commercial
>> >>>> pitches
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> brand clients.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I would love to assist in the production of this reel
>> >>>> with
>> >>>> these
>> >>>> fine
>> >>>> folk who are pulling this together. I'm certain I have
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> knowhow
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> experience to bring something special to any reel you
>> >>>> wish
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> produce.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> cheers,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Paul C
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 18 June 2012 23:01, Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm not sure how this got started; but I welcome any
>> >>>> good
>> >>>> PR
>> >>>> material
>> >>>> for
>> >>>> Blender! I'm used to get a minimum standard though...
>> >>>> So
>> >>>> it
>> >>>> should
>> >>>> be
>> >>>> relatively intelligent & honest and encouraging, being
>> >>>> presented
>> >>>> (edited) on
>> >>>> a well designed level you'd accept from corporations
>> >>>> (Adobe,
>> >>>> Apple,
>> >>>> name
>> >>>> it).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The reel Mike Pan did for Siggraph was very good; even
>> >>>> though
>> >>>> it
>> >>>> had
>> >>>> some
>> >>>> clips in it that I'd call a bit below average (like the
>> >>>> car in
>> >>>> desert). I
>> >>>> would also not include GE stuff this time.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Good reels can be watched in like 2-3 minutes, and give
>> >>>> you
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> right
>> >>>> trigger immediate "Cool stuff, I want to know more!".
>> >>>>
>> >>>> A scripted program that relects quality of software,
>> >>>> community,
>> >>>> etc.
>> >>>> is
>> >>>> quite a different approach. Tricky stuff to get
>> >>>> right...
>> >>>> but
>> >>>> why
>> >>>> not?
>> >>>> :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Just as an example; here's what I like quite good (even
>> >>>> though
>> >>>> it's a
>> >>>> bit
>> >>>> 'american'):
>> >>>> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Ton-
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>> Ton Roosendaal Blender Foundation ton at blender.org
>> >>>> www.blender.org
>> >>>> Blender Institute Entrepotdok 57A 1018AD Amsterdam The
>> >>>> Netherlands
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 18 Jun, 2012, at 13:48, paul caggegi wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi guys - here's my suggestions. First up - do you all
>> >>>> have
>> >>>> dropbox?
>> >>>> If you do, I shall start
>> >>>> up a dropbox share, so we can dump assets for final
>> >>>> video
>> >>>> in
>> >>>> there.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Next: I honestly don't mind the sexy sell for software.
>> >>>> This
>> >>>> is
>> >>>> Sigraph we're talking about, after all. What is
>> >>>> important
>> >>>> is:
>> >>>> what
>> >>>> message do you want to get across? my thoughts on
>> >>>> Blender,
>> >>>> which
>> >>>> might
>> >>>> make good points for the video:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Free, Open source
>> >>>> Worldwide community and support network (no waiting for
>> >>>> customer
>> >>>> service department to fix a bug; post on a forum and
>> >>>> someone
>> >>>> will
>> >>>> help
>> >>>> you out).
>> >>>> always improving
>> >>>> Stunning, professional results
>> >>>> Cross-platform, robust
>> >>>> Easy to learn interface
>> >>>> Customizable
>> >>>> Good for simple design work to high-end work
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I would write a script reflecting the qualities not
>> >>>> only
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> software, but of the community behind it. That is,
>> >>>> after
>> >>>> all,
>> >>>> what
>> >>>> makes using blender unique among 3D software.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'd consider using not only finished work, but footage
>> >>>> from
>> >>>> tutorials
>> >>>> to show how easy it is to learn; find resources,
>> >>>> support,
>> >>>> etc.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We really wouldn't need much custom work made for it,
>> >>>> as
>> >>>> tonnes
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> stuff exists all over the interwebs. How easy would it
>> >>>> be
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> get
>> >>>> permission from the artists if we wish to feature a
>> >>>> shot
>> >>>> in
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> video?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> sent from my Commodore64
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> www.processdiary.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> sent from my Commodore64
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> www.processdiary.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Reynante Martinez
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://reynantem.blogspot.com
>> >>>> http://reynante.daportfolio.com
>> >>>> http://vimeo.com/reynante
>> >>>> http://twitter.com/reynantem
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mobile: (+63)906-442-5403
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "You waste your time when you do something you're not
>> >>>> happy
>> >>>> with."
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Reynante Martinez
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://reynantem.blogspot.com
>> >>>> http://reynante.daportfolio.com
>> >>>> http://vimeo.com/reynante
>> >>>> http://twitter.com/reynantem
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mobile: (+63)906-442-5403
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "You waste your time when you do something you're not
>> >>>> happy
>> >>>> with."
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Reynante Martinez
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://reynantem.blogspot.com
>> >>>> http://reynante.daportfolio.com
>> >>>> http://vimeo.com/reynante
>> >>>> http://twitter.com/reynantem
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mobile: (+63)906-442-5403
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "You waste your time when you do something you're not
>> >>>> happy
>> >>>> with."
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> sent from my Commodore64
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> www.processdiary.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> sent from my Commodore64
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> www.processdiary.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Reynante Martinez
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://reynantem.blogspot.com
>> >>>> http://reynante.daportfolio.com
>> >>>> http://vimeo.com/reynante
>> >>>> http://twitter.com/reynantem
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mobile: (+63)906-442-5403
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "You waste your time when you do something you're not happy
>> >>>> with."
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> sent from my Commodore64
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> www.processdiary.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Reynante Martinez
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://reynantem.blogspot.com
>> >>>> http://reynante.daportfolio.com
>> >>>> http://vimeo.com/reynante
>> >>>> http://twitter.com/reynantem
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mobile: (+63)906-442-5403
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "You waste your time when you do something you're not happy
>> >>>> with."
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> sent from my Commodore64
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> www.processdiary.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Reynante Martinez
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://reynantem.blogspot.com
>> >>>> http://reynante.daportfolio.com
>> >>>> http://vimeo.com/reynante
>> >>>> http://twitter.com/reynantem
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mobile: (+63)906-442-5403
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "You waste your time when you do something you're not happy with."
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> sent from my Commodore64
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> www.processdiary.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Reynante Martinez
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://reynantem.blogspot.com
>> >>>> http://reynante.daportfolio.com
>> >>>> http://vimeo.com/reynante
>> >>>> http://twitter.com/reynantem
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mobile: (+63)906-442-5403
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "You waste your time when you do something you're not happy with."
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> sent from my Commodore64
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> www.processdiary.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Reynante Martinez
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://reynantem.blogspot.com
>> >>>> http://reynante.daportfolio.com
>> >>>> http://vimeo.com/reynante
>> >>>> http://twitter.com/reynantem
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mobile: (+63)906-442-5403
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "You waste your time when you do something you're not happy with."
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> sent from my Commodore64
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> www.processdiary.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Reynante Martinez
>> >>>
>> >>> http://reynantem.blogspot.com
>> >>> http://reynante.daportfolio.com
>> >>> http://vimeo.com/reynante
>> >>> http://twitter.com/reynantem
>> >>>
>> >>> Mobile: (+63)906-442-5403
>> >>>
>> >>> "You waste your time when you do something you're not happy with."
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Reynante Martinez
>> >>
>> >> http://reynantem.blogspot.com
>> >> http://reynante.daportfolio.com
>> >> http://vimeo.com/reynante
>> >> http://twitter.com/reynantem
>> >>
>> >> Mobile: (+63)906-442-5403
>> >>
>> >> "You waste your time when you do something you're not happy with."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > sent from my Commodore64
>> >
>> >
>> > www.processdiary.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> sent from my Commodore64
>> 
>> 
>> www.processdiary.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Reynante Martinez
>> 
>> http://reynantem.blogspot.com
>> http://reynante.daportfolio.com
>> http://vimeo.com/reynante
>> http://twitter.com/reynantem
>> 
>> Mobile: (+63)906-442-5403
>> 
>> "You waste your time when you do something you're not happy with."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Reynante Martinez
>> 
>> http://reynantem.blogspot.com
>> http://reynante.daportfolio.com
>> http://vimeo.com/reynante
>> http://twitter.com/reynantem
>> 
>> Mobile: (+63)906-442-5403
>> 
>> "You waste your time when you do something you're not happy with."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Reynante Martinez
> 
> http://reynantem.blogspot.com
> http://reynante.daportfolio.com
> http://vimeo.com/reynante
> http://twitter.com/reynantem
> 
> Mobile: (+63)906-442-5403
> 
> "You waste your time when you do something you're not happy with."
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Reynante Martinez
> 
> http://reynantem.blogspot.com
> http://reynante.daportfolio.com
> http://vimeo.com/reynante
> http://twitter.com/reynantem
> 
> Mobile: (+63)906-442-5403
> 
> "You waste your time when you do something you're not happy with."

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