[Bf-viewport] Updates for the week of May 30th - June 6th

[Brecht Van Lommel]

Hi Clément,

I think having a separate realtime renderer choice would be good.
Hiding unsupported features would make the UI more clear for users
that specifically want to target the realtime renderer. F12 would
render using the viewport and feed that into the compositor and
sequencer, etc.

I do expect that Cycles users want to have a better viewport preview
for editing even when they target raytraced GI, and that realtime
users want to bake maps with Cycles using the same shader nodes. So we
should try to share underlying code and shader nodes as much as
possible.

Just thinking out loud here, but perhaps for Cycles (and other offline
renderers) we could aim for a low / medium / high viewport quality
presets. If you want to target realtime rendering or want to create
such presets you could edit the detailed settings by switching to the
realtime renderer.

Brecht.

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Clément FOUCAULT
<foucault.clem at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think we first need to agree on how to integrate this.
>
> As of now it's trying to mimic cycles with viewport methods and I find this
> alienating for the UI to have all these options even for.
>
> Also under some circumstances approximations are very far from cycles
> render. So I don't realy like it being presented as cycles preview and would
> like to separate it to another renderer dedicated to that.
>
> What are your thoughts on this?
>
> 2016-06-09 22:37 GMT+02:00 Mike Erwin <significant.bit at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Excellent work as always Clément! How can we get this into an "official"
>> Blender release one day?
>>
>> Mike Erwin
>> musician, naturalist, pixel pusher, hacker extraordinaire
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Clément FOUCAULT <foucault.clem at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On my side I've release another iteration of my PBR experiment branch.
>>>
>>> https://vimeo.com/169475925
>>>
>>> I'm going to create a wikipage with some rambling about the PBR / shading
>>> side of things.
>>>
>>> I also think like Alexander that we should have another dedicated
>>> renderer. But I don't think we should focus it to replace BI because we
>>> can't do everything with rasterisation techniques efficiently. So in my
>>> opinion it should be focus to have realtime rendering feature only.
>>>
>>> Clément Foucault
>>>
>>> 2016-06-09 18:33 GMT+02:00 Alexander Romanov <a.romanov at blend4web.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>> I've made some docs here
>>>> https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/BI_temporary_removal
>>>> and here
>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sxIz_Uk-foCHMq3vRQxgrlX9c-r3kMVPMqfuh-N1ZRs/edit#gid=1586247834
>>>> . The table shows what we should implement in Viewport to cover BI
>>>> functionality, any comments are welcome!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09.06.2016 19:17, Mitchell Stokes wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello devs,
>>>>
>>>> Any interesting viewport updates for the week of May 30th to June 6th?
>>>> Any plans for the upcoming week? I will be aggregating information on the
>>>> Viewport Reports wiki page[1].
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mitchell Stokes
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:2.8/Viewport/Reports
>>>>
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