[Bf-translations-dev] Fwd: [blender-trans] Re: Complex Script is Now Supported? :D AWESOME!

Sat Oct 15 21:42:56 CEST 2011

Can you confirm if this is correct:
http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=19043

Note that the correct "Presentation Form" (what I was calling absolute
forms) for the Farsi Yeh are:
Isolated, Final, Beggining, Middle:
\ufbfc \ufbfd \ufefe \ufeff

In the persian_to_utf you were using the values for alef maksura instead.

reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Unicode_chart_Arabic_Presentation_Forms-A

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Dalai
2011/10/15 Dalai Felinto <dfelinto at gmail.com>

> Hi Amin,
> a few things:
> 1) the farsi.txt you sent is using \u064a as the final letter of the word.
> Shouldn't it be \u06CC?
> According to the internet the \u064a is the arabic yeh, while \u06cc is the
> arabic farsi yeh
>
> 2) there is a big problem with your persian_to_ utf.py
> For the lookup function (the elif x[g] == ...) you can't use the "absolute"
> form of the char.
> For example the saddd. You are checking if the text has the isolated form
> of the letter ("\ufeb9"). Instead you need to look for the "\u0635".
>
> Now the opposite: for the yeeee Isolated form you put the "relative" form
> of it (\u06cc).
>
> 3) The Persian needs to be a list with every chars. Otherwise the position
> calculation will not work for any char.
> What the script is doing is:
> "is my neighbour char (that is not a harakat) an "arabic/farsi" letter?"
>
> This is to make sure you don't have a middle position (or a
> beginning/final) char connected to a latin letter, symbol, comma .... Also
> notice that the hamza is included in the list of arabic letters. That's why
> I need to manually count it out when calculating the position of the chars.
> I'm not so sure this is 100% right though (i.e. I'm considering hamza as a
> word break, but it seems sometimes it shouldn't be?).
>
> Regards,
> Dalai
>
> 2011/10/12 Amin Babaiepanah <leomoon at gmail.com>
>
>> I modified the "arabic_to_utf.py" for Persian. I don't know how to compile
>> Blender in Windows to test it. I've attached the "persian_to_utf.py" to this
>> email with fa.po file at 2%. I'll continue with translation now.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Amin Babaeipanah
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> LeoMoon Studios
>> http://LeoMoon.com
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> http://ArtisGeek.com
>> http://IMDB.to/AMINB
>> http://LoveIsComix.com
>> http://PersianRead.com
>> ---------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Amin Babaiepanah <leomoon at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Awesome. I looked at the Arabic python script and it was kinda easy to
>>> understand. I'll try to make a Persian one out of that. The best thing about
>>> the script is that is using the characters themselves instead of hard coded
>>> glyph numbers.
>>>
>>> "For the "Language Selection" interface I flipped both Arabic and
>>> Persian names (so they show up correctly). I used the Arabic script for the
>>> Persian. Let me know if they look ok:"
>>> ‫(فارسی) Persian
>>> ... is missing the last character "ی".
>>>
>>> Right now in that picture the text is like:
>>> ‫فارس
>>>
>>> Here is the full word:
>>> ‫(فارسی) Persian
>>>
>>> Or:
>>> ‫Persian (فارسی)
>>>
>>> Selecting the text above is very hard so I've attached 2 text files so
>>> you can just press Ctrl+A and Ctrl+C.
>>>
>>> "I was looking here. Is there any other resource you suggest?"
>>>  I found the link below:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_alphabet
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Amin Babaeipanah
>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>> LeoMoon Studios
>>> http://LeoMoon.com
>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>> http://ArtisGeek.com
>>> http://IMDB.to/AMINB
>>> http://LoveIsComix.com
>>> http://PersianRead.com
>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Dalai Felinto <dfelinto at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> CC here since this is the new list ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Dalai Felinto <dfelinto at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: 2011/10/11
>>>> Subject: Re: [blender-trans] Re: Complex Script is Now Supported? :D
>>>> AWESOME!
>>>> To: blender-translation at googlegroups.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Amin, I added Persian (...) there.
>>>>
>>>> For the "Language Selection" interface I flipped both Arabic and Persian
>>>> names (so they show up correctly). I used the Arabic script for the Persian.
>>>> Let me know if they look ok:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=18889
>>>>
>>>> "I've also made a map of all the characters in Farsi so we can make
>>>> another python file (or add the extra characters to the existing one if
>>>> possible) for Farsi to reverse the characters."
>>>>
>>>> Great. Given that there are changes (and not only added letters) I think
>>>> it's better to keep farsi as a separate script for now.
>>>>
>>>> I was looking here. Is there any other resource you suggest?
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language
>>>>
>>>> The current version of the script is here:
>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3292898/arabic/arabic_to_utf.py
>>>>
>>>> The script should be clear enough for a programmer/farsi speaker.
>>>> It takes every letter, calculate their position (isolated, beginning,
>>>> middle, end) and returns the absolute utf-8 representation of it.
>>>>
>>>> In the beginning of the file we have the unicode/utf-8 representation of
>>>> the letters in their absolute position (range \ufe81 ~ \ufefc).
>>>>
>>>> The letters used in the long if/elif sequence are the non-absolute form
>>>> of the letters (\u622 ~ \u644).
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dalai
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2011/10/10 Amin Babaiepanah <leomoon at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> I've also made a map of all the characters in Farsi so we can make
>>>>> another python file (or add the extra characters to the existing one if
>>>>> possible) for Farsi to reverse the characters. Please see the attached text
>>>>> file (It's UTF-8).
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Amin Babaeipanah
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>> LeoMoon Studios
>>>>> http://LeoMoon.com
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>> http://ArtisGeek.com
>>>>> http://IMDB.to/AMINB
>>>>> http://LoveIsComix.com
>>>>> http://PersianRead.com
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Dalai Felinto <dfelinto at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While googling to read more about Farsi I ran into that:
>>>>>> http://no-more-farsi.50webs.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder if this is actually an issue. As in, should we call it
>>>>>> Persian instead of Farsi?
>>>>>> And is this the right name of the language in farsi/Persian? فارسی
>>>>>> I was to add the needed files in blender code but need to figure those
>>>>>> out first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Dalai
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2011/10/10 Dalai Felinto <dfelinto at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Is the python file below the one that reverses letters?
>>>>>>> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3292898/arabic/arabic_to_utf.py
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the one I'm using yes. It differs a bit in the result than
>>>>>>> the .Net version maintained by the Arabic team. But the results are pretty
>>>>>>> close.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2011/10/8 LeoMoon <leomoon at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yea reversing should work fine. Some characters are different in
>>>>>>>> Farsi
>>>>>>>> but the general system is the same. Tnx for the PO file. I'll start
>>>>>>>> translating.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is the python file below the one that reverses letters?
>>>>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3292898/arabic/arabic_to_utf.py
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 4:30 pm, Dalai Felinto <dfeli... at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Blender doesn't support left oriented languages directly. What we
>>>>>>>> are doing
>>>>>>>> > for arabic is to "reverse" the "letters" and converting to the
>>>>>>>> char that has
>>>>>>>> > the position "hardcoded" (so they write correctly). It's not 100%
>>>>>>>> either.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > It seems that Farsi is a variation of Arabic, is that right? If so
>>>>>>>> it should
>>>>>>>> > be possible to do the same hack there. I can help with that (or
>>>>>>>> what may be
>>>>>>>> > better, you could ask Yousef Hurfoush to adapt the flip arabic to
>>>>>>>> Parsi).
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > If you want a fresh fa.po to start translating you can get it
>>>>>>>> here:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3292898/arabic/fa.po
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Once we have the flipping system working for Farsi as well we can
>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>> > Blender to support fa_IR.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>> > Dalai
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > 2011/10/8 Ethan Luo <congcong... at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > > Hi Amin,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > > I think you can just create a new folder there in branch and
>>>>>>>> start the
>>>>>>>> > > translation work first. Need to discuss with Dailai how we can
>>>>>>>> process to
>>>>>>>> > > add a new language in Blender via script.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > > FYI
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > > (1) run update_msg.py (it needs compiled Blender)
>>>>>>>> > > (2) run update_pot.py - gather the latest strings from Blender
>>>>>>>> > > (3) run update_po.py - sync in the new changes from trunk
>>>>>>>> > > (4) run clean_po.py - remove the no longer needed msgstr/msgid
>>>>>>>> > > (5) run merge_po.py to bring the new .po file into trunk's .po
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > > Regards,
>>>>>>>> > > *罗聪翼/Ethan Luo* <congcong... at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> > > *M: (86)158-5051-1795(GMT+8)*
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>>>>>>>> > > ***BlenderCN**中文社区**(**www.blendercn.org**)*
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:46 PM, LeoMoon <leom... at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >> Hello,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >> Now that complex script is now supported with right-to-left (I
>>>>>>>> saw the
>>>>>>>> > >> Arabic example) I want to start the translation for Farsi. Code
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> > >> Farsi is "Fa".
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >> Can somebody point me to the right direction on how to start?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >> Thank you for your hard work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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