[Bf-taskforce25] Proposal: .B.blend -> startup.blend

[Dietrich Bollmann]

Hi

On Unix / Linux it is a standard to prefix configuration files with a
dot.

I count 240 config files in my home directory alone and I am most happy
that they are only listed when I want them to be listed.

$ ls -1a | grep '^\.' | grep -v '~$' | wc -l
240

If all configuration files would be visible by default it would be a
huge mess!

I opt for .blender or .config/blender at least on linux :)

Dietrich


On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 06:47 -0700, Brian Staub wrote:
> that looks like moving from one .folder to another.... no good
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> >From: Xavier Thomas <xavier.thomas.1980 at gmail.com>
> >To: The Blender 2.5 TaskForce <bf-taskforce25 at blender.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 8:40:02 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Bf-taskforce25] Proposal: .B.blend -> startup.blend
> 
> >Would be great, but I think the freedesktop standard recommend:
> /home/user/.config/blender/files-here
> 
> 2009/5/6 Campbell Barton <ideasman42 at gmail.com>
>         +1
>         on linux .B.blend is in the home dir. Id prefer it be in
>         the .blender/
>         dir so as not to dump more crap in my home dir then needed.
>         
>         from...
>         /home/me/.B.blend
>         to...
>         /home/me/.blender/startup.blend
>         
>         same goes for /home/me/.Blog
>         
>         
>         On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Kernon Dillon
>         <kernond at gmail.com> wrote:
>         > +10
>         > I think the more we move away from cryptic names the better.
>         >
>         > Also, if the console window will still exist in 2.5 it would
>         be great if the
>         > window was given a descriptive title (e.g. Blender Console).
>         This would make
>         > it easier to switch between applications because, currently,
>         it's too
>         > similar to the main Blender window (similar title, same
>         icon).
>         >
>         > Thanks for considering it,
>         > Kernon
>         >
>         > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Matt Ebb <matt at mke3.net>
>         wrote:
>         >>
>         >> Hi,
>         >>
>         >> I noticed the new .b25.blend addition, which got me
>         thinking a bit.
>         >>
>         >> At winter camp, we agreed that we should move to better
>         folder
>         >> locations for resource files, especially on OSX. For
>         example, moving
>         >> the contents of the .blender folder that's hidden inside
>         the
>         >> application bundle to /Users/UserName/Application
>         Data/blender/ where
>         >> it's easily accessible, and as the platform standards
>         dictate.
>         >>
>         >> We should apply the same logic to the .B.blend file. For
>         such an
>         >> important file, it's terribly inaccessible and difficult to
>         edit. It's
>         >> necessary to be able to access this file for various
>         reasons
>         >> including:
>         >> * For testing/debugging, being able to rename your existing
>         config and
>         >> test by making a clean file, and renaming back after
>         testing
>         >> * As an artist, packing up your config to take to a new
>         workstation
>         >> * Switching between configs for different users on the same
>         workstation
>         >>
>         >> This is currently very difficult:
>         >> * On Mac OS X, files beginning with . are hidden by the
>         finder, so
>         >> even if they were to by chance look in the non-standard
>         location where
>         >> it's kept, most users wouldn't even know it exists.
>         >> * On Windows, dot files are visible in Explorer, but
>         difficult to
>         >> manage. It's impossible to rename a file to .something.ext,
>         it
>         >> requires characters before the first dot.
>         >> * Even on many linux systems, dot files are hidden by
>         default in the
>         >> file browser.
>         >>
>         >> A good first step would be to just rename the .B.blend file
>         to
>         >> startup.blend.
>         >>
>         >> Not only would it be vastly easier to work with and
>         manipulate on the
>         >> various systems that Blender supports, but it also gives
>         users a much
>         >> better indication about the file's purpose. Then, when (as
>         we also
>         >> talked about at winter camp [1]) we separate this file out
>         to one
>         >> containing startup UI settings, and one containing
>         preferences, we can
>         >> give them logical names like startup.blend and
>         preferences.blend
>         >>
>         >> So.. comments? :)
>         >>
>         >> cheers,
>         >>
>         >> Matt
>         >>
>         >>
>         >> [1]
>         >>
>         http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/BlenderDev/Blender2.5/WinterCamp/EditorReviews
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