[Bf-gamedev] Python logic module refactoring

[FRANCISCO ORTIZ]

"Stability might be even more important for the game engine than it is in
other parts of blender, since bugs in a game affect the end user experience
and are much harder to workaround for an artist."

Sam Brubaker

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You are a blessed man Mr. Brubaker. I would never put it so clearly! :)

Reminds me The Rule
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PmHRSeA2c8&feature=youtu.be&t=8m36s>...

What tends to be a nightmare for artists is when the Blender Game Engine
API is changed. Campbell will tell you that scripters are lazy, but
unfortunately (<--no sarcasm here, really) making 3D game prototypes
involves more things than making scripts...  :I

If any changes need to be made to the Game Engine I would like to suggest
two things:

1) Make something to encourage artists to use Python by simplifying the
understanding of the API
2) Or to make the game engine more robust If backwards compatibility is
going to be compromised somehow.

And by robust I mean: Something that doesn't crash.

Yours,

Ortiz


On 12 March 2015 at 20:01, Sam Brubaker <sam at worldsday.org> wrote:

> The bge seems usable to me as well, but I do have some bugs in that task
> list. Stability might be even more important for the game engine than it is
> in other parts of blender, since bugs in a game affect the end user
> experience and are much harder to workaround for an artist.
>
> I agree with Campbell that stability should be a priority until such a
> time that more risks and major changes are possible. Let me know if I
> should shut up.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Jacob Merrill <blueprintrandom1 at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> How can we fix bugs and refactor in the same move?
>>
>> Also, the engine is very close to usable for me, I had 2 bugs get knocked
>> off the tracker, and now I am hard pressed to find any showstoppers besides
>> the Libload/LibFree cycling crash that appears related to texture cache.
>>
>> I use almost all of the engines features and my game is stable,
>> besides rigid body joints failing, but I guess that is fixed as well and
>> will be in 2.74.
>>
>> the only thing I can think of that I dont use is the vehicle
>> constraints.....
>> On Mar 9, 2015 3:56 AM, "Campbell Barton" <ideasman42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There is really a lot of work to do on the game engine, see tbe bug
>>> tracker - there are many open bugs. (below)
>>>
>>> I don't think now is a great time to refactor Python API - just by
>>> moving modules around.
>>> First get the BGE stable and usable in its current state. Then make
>>> other improvements afterwards.
>>>
>>> If we don't currently have enough resources to keep the BGE stable,
>>> putting energy into breaking API changes seems not the best use of
>>> time.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://developer.blender.org/maniphest/?statuses=open&allProjects=PHID-PROJ-hjlgdc66wg5yny3jg2le#R
>>>
>>> https://developer.blender.org/maniphest/?statuses=open&allProjects=PHID-PROJ-we3tj3fbnpw6ltqucale#R
>>>
>>> https://developer.blender.org/maniphest/?statuses=open&allProjects=PHID-PROJ-tbyxh6d7bngojy6cb6dj#R
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:59 AM, tristan panzer
>>> <republicthunderbolt9 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hello, I'm start in the game blender development. I propose to move all
>>> > functions contain in bge.logic module in a new python proxy for
>>> > KX_KestjiEngine (like in C++ sources) to replace those functions by
>>> > attributes (when it's possible) ex : bge.logic.getSceneList() to
>>> > bge.logic.engine.scenes. The only role of bge.logic will be to contain
>>> the
>>> > constants, the python dictionary and the proxy of the engine. I know
>>> this
>>> > breaks all existing codes, but can be useful to do that or I'm on the
>>> bad
>>> > way ?
>>> >
>>> > Sorry for my bad English.
>>> >
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>>>
>>>
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