[Bf-funboard] New compositing and VSE monitor tools

[Knapp]

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> On Sun, Feb 21
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> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 12:15 PM, David McSween <3pointedit at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
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>> Douglas,
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> You must remember that the VSE strips are unique to the VSE. You can load
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> movie clips elsewhere (tracker, compositor) but they do not correspond with
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> the VSE directly. The only way to import media from elsewhere in Blender
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> (IIRC) to the VSE is via Scene strips or Masks. A VSE Movie clip strip is
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> only a local, unique instance of another datablock elsewhere in Blender.
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OK, and now I understand this but it should not be this way to the user.
When a film clip is in blender then it should be in blender and usable
anywhere. The way it is now is very obtuse to the end users.
So when it is loaded there should be one apparent film clip or picture.
Clearly it has two data forms; one in the VSE and one in the rest of
blender.



> So what you are describing in the bug workflow is not strictly what is
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> actually happening. The VSE only uses local instances of external media.
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So it is not a coding bug but I would still describe it as a functional
bug. It is something that could be made much simpler from the user's
viewpoint.


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> The actual current solution is to define other scenes as wrappers for
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> external media. That is a scene would be named for the camera clip or shot
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> that it holds. This scene would have a Compositor set for grading the shot
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> and its corresponding audio strip on its own VSE timeline.
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I am not clear  on your use of the word scene. In the info window there is
a pulldown that says default and one that says scene. Are you talking about
these scenes?

So I think you mean that we load in a movie clip and it has 3 data
components: VSE sound and VSE video and linear data for the compositor etc.
Is that correct? All this together you are calling the Meta Strip? Really
the sound should not be part of the meta strip because it can be cut at
different places than the video. I see no case where the VSE video and the
compositor video would have different cut points.



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> In your master edit scene, you add the camera native strip and this
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> Composited/color grade scene strip and Meta strip them together. You would
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> then cut with the metastrip (using a proxy of the footage if required) and
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> at picture lock, switch to the graded scene strip.
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> This workaround(?) fails to provide correspondence between the edit and the
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> source footage however, so multiple grades from alternate sections of the
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> same source media could be an issue. This depends on length of source of
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> course, as single short shots probably don't change much. While long screen
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> captures or wild recordings can last hours (changing all the time).
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> Troy would suggest that clearly defined shot listing would resolve this
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> later issue.
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> What is a shot listing? Is it a list of film strip and photos?




> However I don't recall what the implications for color transforms are.
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> Hope this helps.
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> David
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-- 
Douglas E Knapp, MSAOM, LAc.