[Bf-funboard] floating windows don't stay on top!

[Karl Kühberger]

I made the self-test and changed two things in the User Prefs:

Input - Select With: Left
Editing - Transform: Release confirms

For me as a Blender veteran it feels much more comfortable, fluent and
natural.
In school I tested the new preferences with one class and the old prefs
with another class.
Blender was for both classes totally unknown.
The first group was much more happy, started to move around stuff without
help from me,
they were quite optimistic and looking forward to learn more.
In the second group some students complained about the "crippled" software
and became frustrated.

Is this what we want to be the first impression of Blender?

I personally would change my startup file immediately, but I found out,
that it is not possible,
because changing to Left-Click-Select causes a change to Right-Click in the
other editors.
I don't know if this is an intended behavior (or is it a bug?) It just
don't make any sense to me.
A user must feel betrayed if he changes "Selection: Left-Click" and get's
the opposite behavior
in most editors.

IMHO this should be changed in the next version.



2013/9/26 Gatis Kurzemnieks <gatis.kurzemnieks at gmail.com>

> for me it woud be convenient to have some temporary windows on top of my
> main 3d view, covering only small fraction for a brief time - like an
> outliner window, or UV editor or curves editor. Existing behaviour with
> splitting panes is good, also there already is option to Shift+click to
> create standalone windows, but this does make sense only on second monitor.
> This small addition of making window "stay on top" would be just handy
> additional option for users who prefer it this way.
>
> A little off topic - this is just ridiculous how much discussion and
> arguing is going on about simple matters and about what is good and what is
> not and defending lack of functionality by providing 5 step awkward
> workarounds. (how can you even discuss left click vs right click if
> 99.999999% of all aplications ever created by humanity use left click to
> select) That is just absurd!!!. And nobody is asking to change some core
> ideas of the blender and make it a copy of maya. Almost all requests and
> proposals can be done as additional options or first time defaults
> therefore extending blenders existing capabilities and making it more user
> friendly for people coming from other packages. Just respect the standards
> and what majority of people want and like! You cant go against the world!
> Old behaviour would still be there for those who like, but new users and
> people with different habits would also be happy.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Alberto Torres <kungfoobar at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I think non-overlapping windows is the best way to have things arranged.
> > That said, Blender has a serious problem with that: it's too cumbersome
> to
> > make changes to that structure. You can't just move an area, you have to
> > join and split back separate areas (remove and recreate), and very
> > frequently you have to move several boundaries when it would be much
> better
> > if you can "push" all at once.
> >
> >
> >
> > DiThi
> >
> >
> > 2013/9/26 david j <davidj at gmail.com>
> >
> > > These diatribes are not helping anything. Nobody said blender will
> never
> > > have overlapping windows.. It has preferences as a separate window.
> > >
> > > I specifically asked for clarification about which type of
> always-on-top
> > is
> > > being requested... A, b, or c?
> > >
> > > I also asked what the detailed use case is. What do you want to put in
> > the
> > > always on top window?
> > >
> > > There is no way to consider or implement a feature with the vague
> > > descriptions which have been described so far.
> > >
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