[Bf-funboard] Bf-funboard Digest, Vol 90, Issue 20

Bol Bib bollebib at hotmail.com
Fri May 31 16:19:18 CEST 2013 

I think you're misunderstanding me.


I'm not looking for a way to save and open the layout.

I'm looking for a way to show the SAME toolshelf,properties shelf across blender,making it the DEFAULT order,in a sense.
Saving layout doesn't change the underlying default panel order when you add new editors. (except if you duplicate a 3D view)


Basicly now that I think about it ,if I could just access the default panel order and change that,it would work fine.


Because if you don't do it like that, every new editor you open or if you change a curve editor to a 3D view ,those properties tools settings will be chosen based on the blender default and not on your settings.


So if someone could point me to a python script  ,if this is handled by a python script,to manipulate the order,I think I could do that .

I still  think there should be an option to save a particular order as default ACCROSS Blender (not only for startup file) ,without jumping through these hoops,as I think it would benefit other users then myself.

Kind regards



> Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 07:55:34 -0400
> From: atomicperception at gmail.com
> To: bf-funboard at blender.org
> Subject: Re: [Bf-funboard] Bf-funboard Digest, Vol 90, Issue 20
> 
> You can lock in your panel order by pressing CTRL-U. Then all scenes you
> create from the default setup will always have your preferred setup. If you
> open up a BLEND file from another source make sure to disable Load UI when
> you open it so you do not inherit the embedded setup.
> 
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> >    1. global properties & tool panels (Bol Bib)
> >    2. Re: global properties & tool panels (Karl K?hberger)
> >    3. Re: global properties & tool panels (Bol Bib)
> >    4. Unlock "view offset lock" for Lock to Cursor (Bol Bib)
> >    5. Re: global properties & tool panels (Karl K?hberger)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 12:53:07 +0200
> > From: Bol Bib <bollebib at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: [Bf-funboard] global properties & tool panels
> > To: "bf-funboard at blender.org" <bf-funboard at blender.org>
> > Message-ID: <DUB121-W6589AC393336126C0F319CE910 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Could we please have an option to gave only 1 version of panel ordering in
> > toolshelves (ALL toolshelves across Blender,not only those in 3D
> > view,properties editor as well)
> >
> >
> > I get the benefit of being able to customize your shelves's order and the
> > toggle visibility of panels,for each view. But when you find a setup you
> > like, setting that up everytime makes it a pain that soon you won't bother
> > with.
> >
> >
> > Like you have the global scene option,I envision a global shelves
> > option,that no matter what view or editor,every change in order or toggle
> > you make is apparant in all of them.
> >
> > Right now the only real option is to get used to the default order,but I
> > find it illogical,to me, and so I have difficulty finding what I need
> > quickly. As long as there is no real way to really custromize and save
> > shelve states,this would be the most ideal way to have a quick custom
> > shelf,in all of blender.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > kind regards
> >
> > Steven
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 13:16:09 +0200
> > From: Karl K?hberger <karl.kuehberger at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Bf-funboard] global properties & tool panels
> > To: bf-funboard at blender.org
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAO6KDLjE_3-jeFKW6x3z7JrjZ4KGN+v7jBfjQxTUOhJZy1FDEQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > Good idea!
> > And there should be an option to have icons instead of text buttons.
> > They need less space and are faster recognizable for most of the people.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Karl
> >
> >
> > 2013/5/30 Bol Bib <bollebib at hotmail.com>
> >
> > > Could we please have an option to gave only 1 version of panel ordering
> > in
> > > toolshelves (ALL toolshelves across Blender,not only those in 3D
> > > view,properties editor as well)
> > >
> > >
> > > I get the benefit of being able to customize your shelves's order and the
> > > toggle visibility of panels,for each view. But when you find a setup you
> > > like, setting that up everytime makes it a pain that soon you won't
> > bother
> > > with.
> > >
> > >
> > > Like you have the global scene option,I envision a global shelves
> > > option,that no matter what view or editor,every change in order or toggle
> > > you make is apparant in all of them.
> > >
> > > Right now the only real option is to get used to the default order,but I
> > > find it illogical,to me, and so I have difficulty finding what I need
> > > quickly. As long as there is no real way to really custromize and save
> > > shelve states,this would be the most ideal way to have a quick custom
> > > shelf,in all of blender.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > kind regards
> > >
> > > Steven
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Bf-funboard mailing list
> > > Bf-funboard at blender.org
> > > http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-funboard
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 00:57:21 +0200
> > From: Bol Bib <bollebib at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Bf-funboard] global properties & tool panels
> > To: "bf-funboard at blender.org" <bf-funboard at blender.org>
> > Message-ID: <DUB121-W4404DB060FF940D0C69119CE910 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Well that's a different matter entirely,and a matter of taste.
> > In a lot of cases icons that are out of place can hamper and slow
> > recognition.
> >
> > It's also much more invasive than what I propose (unless I am mistaken)
> >
> > > From: karl.kuehberger at gmail.com
> > > Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 13:16:09 +0200
> > > To: bf-funboard at blender.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Bf-funboard] global properties & tool panels
> > >
> > > Good idea!
> > > And there should be an option to have icons instead of text buttons.
> > > They need less space and are faster recognizable for most of the people.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Karl
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/5/30 Bol Bib <bollebib at hotmail.com>
> > >
> > > > Could we please have an option to gave only 1 version of panel
> > ordering in
> > > > toolshelves (ALL toolshelves across Blender,not only those in 3D
> > > > view,properties editor as well)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I get the benefit of being able to customize your shelves's order and
> > the
> > > > toggle visibility of panels,for each view. But when you find a setup
> > you
> > > > like, setting that up everytime makes it a pain that soon you won't
> > bother
> > > > with.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Like you have the global scene option,I envision a global shelves
> > > > option,that no matter what view or editor,every change in order or
> > toggle
> > > > you make is apparant in all of them.
> > > >
> > > > Right now the only real option is to get used to the default order,but
> > I
> > > > find it illogical,to me, and so I have difficulty finding what I need
> > > > quickly. As long as there is no real way to really custromize and save
> > > > shelve states,this would be the most ideal way to have a quick custom
> > > > shelf,in all of blender.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > kind regards
> > > >
> > > > Steven
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Bf-funboard mailing list
> > > > Bf-funboard at blender.org
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 01:07:01 +0200
> > From: Bol Bib <bollebib at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: [Bf-funboard] Unlock "view offset lock" for Lock to Cursor
> > To: "bf-funboard at blender.org" <bf-funboard at blender.org>
> > Message-ID: <DUB121-W27E9A46C200C8440CA23C8CE910 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > I understand why this is here,but I feel the lock to cursor could be more
> > useful if you don't prohibit the moving of the 3D view.
> >
> > In effect this would have the same idea as "rotate around selection'
> > option but with the benefit that it can be used in objects that have
> > distant placed origins (= rotating in those cases usually  can be a pain.)
> >
> > but with a "lock to cursor" only limited to rotation and not moving I feel
> > you could move around much more fluently.
> >
> > it could be an option,it could be an extra button or depending on how
> > useful this is to devs and users could replace the current implementation
> > entirely.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 10:37:44 +0200
> > From: Karl K?hberger <karl.kuehberger at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Bf-funboard] global properties & tool panels
> > To: bf-funboard at blender.org
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAO6KDLhSVm-=
> > E8oakFrF_GHaWq8KUHa+jpAqF2A3dJ0LWGQEWQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > I agree, that it's a matter of taste and speed of recognition can
> > vary from person to person. But without doubt, it occupies less
> > space.
> >
> > As I often work on a small laptop display, I always have to scroll
> > in the tool-shelf in order to see the operators when adding a new mesh
> > or when using addons.
> >
> > >From my point of view it's important to have a full custumizable
> > tool shelf with the options:
> >
> > - only text
> > - only icons
> > - icons+text
> > - add/delete tool
> > - re-arrange tools per drag & drop
> > - when using icons, it could be arranged in an array (more icons in one
> > row, for example putting together similar tools in one row)
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Karl
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/5/31 Bol Bib <bollebib at hotmail.com>
> >
> > > Well that's a different matter entirely,and a matter of taste.
> > > In a lot of cases icons that are out of place can hamper and slow
> > > recognition.
> > >
> > > It's also much more invasive than what I propose (unless I am mistaken)
> > >
> > > > From: karl.kuehberger at gmail.com
> > > > Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 13:16:09 +0200
> > > > To: bf-funboard at blender.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Bf-funboard] global properties & tool panels
> > > >
> > > > Good idea!
> > > > And there should be an option to have icons instead of text buttons.
> > > > They need less space and are faster recognizable for most of the
> > people.
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > >
> > > > Karl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/5/30 Bol Bib <bollebib at hotmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > Could we please have an option to gave only 1 version of panel
> > > ordering in
> > > > > toolshelves (ALL toolshelves across Blender,not only those in 3D
> > > > > view,properties editor as well)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I get the benefit of being able to customize your shelves's order and
> > > the
> > > > > toggle visibility of panels,for each view. But when you find a setup
> > > you
> > > > > like, setting that up everytime makes it a pain that soon you won't
> > > bother
> > > > > with.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Like you have the global scene option,I envision a global shelves
> > > > > option,that no matter what view or editor,every change in order or
> > > toggle
> > > > > you make is apparant in all of them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Right now the only real option is to get used to the default
> > order,but
> > > I
> > > > > find it illogical,to me, and so I have difficulty finding what I need
> > > > > quickly. As long as there is no real way to really custromize and
> > save
> > > > > shelve states,this would be the most ideal way to have a quick custom
> > > > > shelf,in all of blender.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > kind regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Steven
> > > > >
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