[Bf-funboard] Warning when auto keyframe active

Alberto Torres kungfoobar at gmail.com
Tue Sep 25 06:58:16 CEST 2012 

How about this?

http://i.imgur.com/VW25Y.png

2012/9/25 Nicholas Rishel <rishel.nick at gmail.com>:
> This might be a simple and elegant way to communicate "the item you have
> selected will be recorded if transformed":
> http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=38124
>
> Sorry if I missed someone else already suggesting this.
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:25 AM, Bol Bib <bollebib at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm with you on the seceral proposals for the 3Dview
>>
>> -record button (I'd prefer bottom right actually..,but just a detail)
>> -different theme for the transform gizmo perhaps? glowing? Inverted colors?
>> -Different theme or indicator on the Header perhaps?
>>
>>
>> -colored border might still be my favorite though.
>>
>>
>> maybe with the option to turn it off for those who don't want it.
>>
>>
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>>
>> But I don't follow on confirmation of transforming.
>>
>> That would mean that everytime you make a change ,something flashes. That
>> gets old and annoying really quickly,I think.
>>
>>
>>
>> At the most you could briefly make the cursor have a blinking effect,but
>> I'm not sold by this last idea.
>>
>>
>> Unless I interpreted it wrong?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> > From: bassam at urchn.org
>> > To: bf-funboard at blender.org
>> > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:17:54 -0400
>> > Subject: Re: [Bf-funboard] Warning when auto keyframe active
>> >
>> > yeah, that would work... unless you wanted to use it later for something
>> > else!
>> > some suggestion:
>> >
>> > -different theme color for 'transform'. right now, wireframe/border goes
>> > white when transforming, this could maybe turn red or some other color
>> > to alert instead.
>> >
>> > the following suggestion have two possibilities: always-on or just
>> > during transform:
>> >
>> > -3d view red rectangle border
>> > -red record icon
>> > -record text
>> > -combination of any of the above
>> > -background color of 3d view
>> >
>> > final suggestion warnings that happen after the transformation has been
>> > confirmed:
>> >
>> > -a color change on transform confirmation: any of the above suggestions
>> > or even briefly flashing red the background before going back to normal.
>> >
>> > -an alert telling that keyframes have been inserted (similar to what
>> > happens after pressing i key on a keying set)
>> >
>> > restatement of problem that led me to the above suggestions:
>> >
>> > sometimes when autokey is on we forget and transform create keyframes or
>> > changing them when that was not desired. a notification of some sort in
>> > the 3d view that is obvious can either prevent this, or at least help
>> > alert that it has happened so an undo is instantly possible.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, 2012-09-21 at 10:49 +1000, Campbell Barton wrote:
>> > > Just a note to say Im happy to add some functionality similar to whats
>> > > been suggested - but also am not totally convinced a `good enough`
>> > > solution has been suggested yet.
>> > >
>> > > Maybe add a record icon in 3d view would be enough (top right? - that
>> > > corner is free).
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Matjaz Lamut <matjaz.lamut at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > > Ah yes, completely forgot about the 3d view, where most (all?) of the
>> > > > recorded transforms happen. In this case my proposal doesn't really
>> work.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Matjaž
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Pietro Grandi
>> > > > <pietro.grandi.3d at gmail.com>wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> I agree, for my experience the main problems find themselves within
>> 3D
>> > > >> View.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Bassam Kurdali <bassam at urchn.org>
>> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > it's not a terrible idea, but there is one flaw in it:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > the problem with autokey left on by accident isn't a problem in
>> any of
>> > > >> > the time-based views. You may not even have these visible. It
>> *is* a
>> > > >> > problem in the 3D View - at least the way most people use it, as
>> > > >> > transforming objects in the 3D view is what generates the
>> automatic
>> > > >> > keyframe.
>> > > >> > therefore any warning sign should be in the 3d view, otherwise it
>> can be
>> > > >> > totally missed.
>> > > >> > A red (or otherwise themable) frame around the 3d view to my mind
>> would
>> > > >> > be the least obtrusive, but still visible enough to prevent
>> accidental
>> > > >> > keying.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > anyway, this is all academic unless somebody decides to code it :)
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 22:42 +0200, Matjaz Lamut wrote:
>> > > >> > > Hello,
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > The most elegant solution would be to colour the frame cursor
>> when
>> > > >> > > recording is enabled.
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > - It's the one UI element that appears in all time-related
>> editors.
>> > > >> > > - It's also a prominent (visible) UI element in said editors.
>> > > >> > > - Frame cursor tells from the start that the colour change has
>> to do
>> > > >> > > something with animation even for unfamiliar users (rather than
>> > > >> possibly
>> > > >> > > giving the false impression of an error in an editor with a red
>> line
>> > > >> > around)
>> > > >> > > - The rest of the interface can stay nice, calm grey (or
>> whichever
>> > > >> colour
>> > > >> > > one is using)
>> > > >> > > - Very simple :)
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > See screenshots for the proposal.
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1482587/Blender%20UI/BlenderRecordOff.png
>> > > >> > >
>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1482587/Blender%20UI/BlenderRecordOn.png
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > Regards,
>> > > >> > > Matjaž Lamut
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:11 PM, <lemo_net at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > I agree. I got a lot of trouble with animators letting auto
>> key on.
>> > > >> > > > A red time line could be cool.
>> > > >> > > > Bertrand
>> > > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> > > > From: Bassam Kurdali <bassam at urchn.org>
>> > > >> > > > Sender: bf-funboard-bounces at blender.org
>> > > >> > > > Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:06:24
>> > > >> > > > To: <bf-funboard at blender.org>
>> > > >> > > > Reply-To: bassam at urchn.org, bf-funboard at blender.org
>> > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [Bf-funboard] Warning when auto keyframe active
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > fwiw this comes up when working on group projects; jumping
>> into a
>> > > >> file
>> > > >> > > > where someone has left autokeying on, and getting surprised
>> by it.
>> > > >> > > >  a red border around the viewport doesn't seem like a terrible
>> > > >> solution
>> > > >> > > > - even a thin, non annoying one would be noticable. And it
>> fits with
>> > > >> > > > e.g. changing the border around the camera when we have
>> locked camera
>> > > >> > to
>> > > >> > > > view.
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > So I think this is a reasonable suggestion. with colored
>> border
>> > > >> around
>> > > >> > > > the viewport seeming like a best option.
>> > > >> > > > or... we could modify dr. epilepsy(1) to turn on when autokey
>> is
>> > > >> > > > depressed.
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > (1)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WGQ6_T6HRA
>> > > >> > > > On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 18:19 +0200, Bol Bib wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > I second this request,would be very useful to have some
>> kind of
>> > > >> > (color?)
>> > > >> > > > indicator,prefarably in  or around  the viewport,since the
>> timeline
>> > > >> is
>> > > >> > not
>> > > >> > > > always around.
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > -some ways: border around viewport
>> > > >> > > > > -blinking record button (might be too intrusive tho)
>> > > >> > > > > -other..?
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:37:13 +0200
>> > > >> > > > > > From: pietro.grandi.3d at gmail.com
>> > > >> > > > > > To: bf-funboard at blender.org
>> > > >> > > > > > Subject: [Bf-funboard] Warning when auto keyframe active
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > Hi there,
>> > > >> > > > > > this is my first post. I'm Pietro Grandi, italian 3D
>> artist and
>> > > >> > happy
>> > > >> > > > > > blender user!
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > I wish to suggest a feature: sometimes I forget the "auto
>> > > >> keyframe"
>> > > >> > > > toggle
>> > > >> > > > > > on and I continue with my work... the result is that I
>> come with
>> > > >> > lot of
>> > > >> > > > > > keyframes that I have to remove manually. Could we have a
>> > > >> warning,
>> > > >> > > > like a
>> > > >> > > > > > red bar or something like this?
>> > > >> > > > > > I mean something similar to 3D Studio max, where in 'auto
>> > > >> keyframe
>> > > >> > > > mode'
>> > > >> > > > > > you can see lot of red everywhere.
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > This can sound stupid, maybe, but I think that could be
>> useful.
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > Thank you,
>> > > >> > > > > > Pietro
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