[Bf-funboard] Warning when auto keyframe active

[Campbell Barton]

Just a note to say Im happy to add some functionality similar to whats
been suggested - but also am not totally convinced a `good enough`
solution has been suggested yet.

Maybe add a record icon in 3d view would be enough (top right? - that
corner is free).

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Matjaz Lamut <matjaz.lamut at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah yes, completely forgot about the 3d view, where most (all?) of the
> recorded transforms happen. In this case my proposal doesn't really work.
>
>
> Matjaž
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Pietro Grandi
> <pietro.grandi.3d at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I agree, for my experience the main problems find themselves within 3D
>> View.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Bassam Kurdali <bassam at urchn.org> wrote:
>>
>> > it's not a terrible idea, but there is one flaw in it:
>> >
>> > the problem with autokey left on by accident isn't a problem in any of
>> > the time-based views. You may not even have these visible. It *is* a
>> > problem in the 3D View - at least the way most people use it, as
>> > transforming objects in the 3D view is what generates the automatic
>> > keyframe.
>> > therefore any warning sign should be in the 3d view, otherwise it can be
>> > totally missed.
>> > A red (or otherwise themable) frame around the 3d view to my mind would
>> > be the least obtrusive, but still visible enough to prevent accidental
>> > keying.
>> >
>> > anyway, this is all academic unless somebody decides to code it :)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 22:42 +0200, Matjaz Lamut wrote:
>> > > Hello,
>> > >
>> > > The most elegant solution would be to colour the frame cursor when
>> > > recording is enabled.
>> > >
>> > > - It's the one UI element that appears in all time-related editors.
>> > > - It's also a prominent (visible) UI element in said editors.
>> > > - Frame cursor tells from the start that the colour change has to do
>> > > something with animation even for unfamiliar users (rather than
>> possibly
>> > > giving the false impression of an error in an editor with a red line
>> > around)
>> > > - The rest of the interface can stay nice, calm grey (or whichever
>> colour
>> > > one is using)
>> > > - Very simple :)
>> > >
>> > > See screenshots for the proposal.
>> > >
>> > > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1482587/Blender%20UI/BlenderRecordOff.png
>> > > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1482587/Blender%20UI/BlenderRecordOn.png
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Matjaž Lamut
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:11 PM, <lemo_net at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I agree. I got a lot of trouble with animators letting auto key on.
>> > > > A red time line could be cool.
>> > > > Bertrand
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: Bassam Kurdali <bassam at urchn.org>
>> > > > Sender: bf-funboard-bounces at blender.org
>> > > > Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:06:24
>> > > > To: <bf-funboard at blender.org>
>> > > > Reply-To: bassam at urchn.org, bf-funboard at blender.org
>> > > > Subject: Re: [Bf-funboard] Warning when auto keyframe active
>> > > >
>> > > > fwiw this comes up when working on group projects; jumping into a
>> file
>> > > > where someone has left autokeying on, and getting surprised by it.
>> > > >  a red border around the viewport doesn't seem like a terrible
>> solution
>> > > > - even a thin, non annoying one would be noticable. And it fits with
>> > > > e.g. changing the border around the camera when we have locked camera
>> > to
>> > > > view.
>> > > >
>> > > > So I think this is a reasonable suggestion. with colored border
>> around
>> > > > the viewport seeming like a best option.
>> > > > or... we could modify dr. epilepsy(1) to turn on when autokey is
>> > > > depressed.
>> > > >
>> > > > (1)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WGQ6_T6HRA
>> > > > On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 18:19 +0200, Bol Bib wrote:
>> > > > > I second this request,would be very useful to have some kind of
>> > (color?)
>> > > > indicator,prefarably in  or around  the viewport,since the timeline
>> is
>> > not
>> > > > always around.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -some ways: border around viewport
>> > > > > -blinking record button (might be too intrusive tho)
>> > > > > -other..?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:37:13 +0200
>> > > > > > From: pietro.grandi.3d at gmail.com
>> > > > > > To: bf-funboard at blender.org
>> > > > > > Subject: [Bf-funboard] Warning when auto keyframe active
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi there,
>> > > > > > this is my first post. I'm Pietro Grandi, italian 3D artist and
>> > happy
>> > > > > > blender user!
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I wish to suggest a feature: sometimes I forget the "auto
>> keyframe"
>> > > > toggle
>> > > > > > on and I continue with my work... the result is that I come with
>> > lot of
>> > > > > > keyframes that I have to remove manually. Could we have a
>> warning,
>> > > > like a
>> > > > > > red bar or something like this?
>> > > > > > I mean something similar to 3D Studio max, where in 'auto
>> keyframe
>> > > > mode'
>> > > > > > you can see lot of red everywhere.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > This can sound stupid, maybe, but I think that could be useful.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thank you,
>> > > > > > Pietro
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