[Bf-funboard] reorganising the RVK system

[Luke Wenke]

I didn't know you could rename vertex keys either! BTW, in your mock-up, if
they can be renamed they should be in a standard blender textbox. Your
current look makes them seem to have permanent names.
BTW, what are the down arrows for? Can you make the sliders disappear or
something? It seems too tedious to open or close all of those sliders....
maybe there could be a button to show/hide sliders. BTW, what are the
sliders for anyway? Do they just adjust the levels at the keyframe? If so,
either a new keyframe for that thing would need to be created, or it would
act on the nearest keyframe. Maybe sliders are a bad idea... in RVK's you
can go beyond 1.0 to exaggerate things or even go negative (I think) to do
the inverse.
- Luke.
----- Original Message ----- 
> I remember that the Relative Vertex Key system took me quite i while to
get my head around when I learned Blender. It wasn't the understanding of
the principals behind it that was hard, it was more connected to the
interface. More specificly: how to add new vertex keys, editing them, and
keep track of them.
>
> The current problems are:
>
> 1, Blenders current system of storing the RVK information in blue lines in
the IPO curve window is... er... odd to say the least. It takes a long time
to find out how to edit old keys and adding new ones. It is very confusing
for newbies.
>
> 2, Another issue is that there is a maximum of 30 RVKs in Blender. You
wouldn't very often want to use more than 30, but why have a maximum? Why
not let the user control how many he or she wants?
>
> 3, A third issue is about renaming of RVKs. I know this can be done in the
action window, but it doesn't update in the IPO window. I only found out a
week ago that you could actually rename the vertex keys in the action
window, so it isn't very obvious to the user that it IS possible.
>
> 4, A fourth issue is about the slider placements. Currently they reside in
the action window, which is weird, because the action window is an overview
of your keyframes, that lets you move the IPO curve points on the X axes,
not the Y axes.
>
> 5, A fifth problem with the current system is abot consistancy. Storing
things in blue lines is not used anywhere else in the program, and the
entire way you add new RVKs is also unconsistent wit the rest of the
program.
>
>
> I think it would make much more sence to out everything in the IPO window.
There should be two buttons in the bottom saying New and Delete, for adding
and deleting RVKs(like adding vertex groups or material groups in the edit
buttons).You should be able to rename them by clicking on the default names
rather like changing the name for a material. And ofcourse the slider should
be worked into the same window. This gives you instant feedback over you
curves while you are using the sliders. There should be no maximum, and it
should not by default have 30 empty RKV slots - it should only have the ones
that you have added. A mockup here: http://www.shadeless.dk/rvkmockup.jpg
>
> I think this will make it alot easier for new people to start using this
crucial aspect to 3D animation. For the experienced user, we would have the
ability to ad as many RVKs as we like, meaning we could spilt everything up
smaller control areas if disered (ie. you could have an RVK called "upper
left eyebrow down" - This amount af control wouldn't be possible now because
of the 30 maximum of RVKs).
>
>
> Comment as you like.
>
> -William Reynish (Monkeyboi)
>
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